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Bat swarms and dire wolves as core units. With fell bats as my special.
Some strigoi vampires to add power to the force. No necromancers, I want this to be a vampire who has become one with the beats of the dead and has attracted a large horde of them to show other vampires he isn't a pushover. :ninja:
Strigoi vampires clearly fit the role of a beast army leader, and I can have dire wovles and a unit of bat swarms as my core. With fell bats this will be a very fast army due to the fact I will give the vampire bat form, and curse of the revenant if he can be a lord.
What do you lot think? I would like to know if a list based on this would work, or would it get beaten down to easily and be a waste of time? Any tactics if you think this idea is good?
It'll be a real tactical army. You'll have to overcome lots of static combat res. So you'll need really hot dice when rolling to wound with bats and wolves.
I'd at least pop in two or three units of zombies to tangle up enemies so that your count can flank (you know, though, that he can't join flyers). If he's on his own, that means one round of losing combat, and he himself suffers however many combat res wounds.
You'd have to be real careful about what combats you allowed him to enter.
Another option is von carsteins with wolf form.
Voncarstiens would work well, and to keep the beast theme you could use a winged nightmare or zombie dragon, they can take combats their own, then have a few larger units of wolves with wolf form thralls in them. It would take a lot of tactic, but with enough flanks you could do it.
you could use ghouls for a theme like this. If you don't like the models, model them as crazy squirels or other beast of the forest. The fact that they are alive would suit the models well.
I hate that rule. It's based on the assumption that your character has to ride some silly mount. Mount? I need no mount. I'm the Batman. Or beast. ;/Originally Posted by DavidVC04
Even if your caracter has a flying mount, he still wouldn't be able to join the unit.
Yes, I understand that. My complaint was that the character does not have a mount, he flies naturally.Originally Posted by Wolf_Pack
The rule is aimed at characters with flying mounts, but unfortunately makes no exception for characters that can fly under their own power.
It is particularly greiving when one realises you may put a Vampire with Wold Form in a unit of wolves, but may not put a Vampire with Bat Form in a unit of bats.
Definitely sounds like you'll have trouble overcoming static combat res. Your strigoi vampire will have no problem at all evicerating rank and file troops, but aside from him you might not be getting too many kills.
Also while on the topic of this list, does anyone find bat swarms even remotely useful? I'm just starting VCs, and the bat swarms seem horribly horribly overpriced. Tomb swarms cost less, come out from underground, and are poisoned. Is there some redeeming factor to bat swarms that I missed?
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Well, I watched a guy's single bat swarm hold up a stegadon for three rounds. That was worth 60 points, to keep that beast from charging in somewhere.
They're okay, all in all. The fact that they fly, skirmish, and are unbreakable make them useful. Nobody likes to get tangled up with a swarm.
Of course, if the rumored rule change to swarms is true, they will have much less staying power.
I have never used them, but I can see that moving 10 inches, skirmishing, and having 5 wounds each can be pretty strong. The problem is they are only s2, most attacks will wound them, but then again, they wont crumble to cr!