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So I currently play Warriors of Chaos and Wood Elves, but unfortunately due to the 8th edition nerf im going to have to retire my Woodies for a while. I've had a few chances to read through the 8th edition warhammer book, (psst, if you get a chance take a look at the new Daemons of Chaos Seeker models, god those are tasty) and have decided I would like to start a new army with a more specific theme and playstyle in mind.
I've narrowed my choices down to Dwarfs, Chaos Dwarfs, and Skaven. I have very little experience with dwarfs and Skaven, as I would be the first in my area to pick up these armies. I had a theme in mind with all three of these armies:
For Skaven I was thinking of a list dominated by clan pestilence, incorporating lots of plague monks and plague cencsers. wind globadiers and clanrats with template weapons teams would help me to take advantage of the buffed template rules. and finally catapults and a plague furnace to round out the theme. this list has lots of templates and poison, two thing i wanted to take advantage of in 8th.
for Dwarfs I was thinking a slayer-heavy army, with a surplus of longbears, some hammerers with a shieldborne lord and maybe some thanes with oathstones. I was thinking about maybe using some ogre kingdoms units as mercenaries, to take advantage of the very nice buffs that monstrous infantry recieved in 8th, not to mention giving the army a little bit more speed.
Now for the Chaos Dwarfs, does anyone know if they are still legal to play? I didn't see any mention of them in the 8th edition book... blunderbusses look pimp in 8th, not to mention the mix between elite infantry (the dwarfs) and hordes (greenskins) will all serve to make Chaos Dwarfs more competitive. I would also be adding Ogre Kingdoms as merceneries to this force.
advice from experienced skaven and Dwarf players is most appreciated.
im not really an experienced one here, but your name is beardy, i would suggest dwarfs.
I do think longbeards are still only metal, so focussing on that would be quite more expensive than a plastic skaven force.
chaos dwarfs are not legal, but they are allowed in some tournaments. Future of ChDw is uncertain. As far as i know the chaos dwarfs are keeping a low profile until one day far away fantasy-Forgeworld will produce new models for it
you could also stick to wood elves ^.^
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I'd say take Skaven, they're extremely characterful and you'll get a lot of fun out of playing with them
The number of different units they have at their disposal will also allow you to change your playstyle and lists to suit different occasions much more than either Dwarves or Chaos Dwarves will allow you to.
8th rules are going to buff horde armies greatly, this means that Skaven will become easier to win with. This would be good for you if you play more competitive battles!
I don't know how good a painter you are, but Skaven models can be also great fun to paint, learning how to paint fur well will also help you with other armies if in future you take them up.
Most importantly, have fun with the new army!
Ok, so last night I tried to narrow my options down, but instead im still at three choices that im having alot of trouble choosing between: I still really like the idea of the clan pestilence Skaven army theme. I love the plague cencer models, and the plague furnace and plague monks are also excellent models.
I scrapped the idea of Chaos Dwarfs, dunno if they will be legal in 8th, but i'm still big on a Slayer-themed Dwarf army, accompanied by hammerers, longbeards and Grudge Throwers.
Looking through my exhaustive collection of army books last night I was drawn to the Lizardmen; Kroxigor get a buff in 8th, and I LOVE the models. Saurus with spears and sword and board are lethal in equal measures, and I could be mistaken but I think razordons and salies benefit from the D6 stomp attacks. I also like the look of Temple Guard, and the Slaan Mage Priest in 8th becomes the magical behemoth he always should have been. Not to mention Lizardmen have access to some poison, which I really wanted to include in my third army.
still looking for comparative advice from Dwarf, Skaven and Lizardmen players. I plan to collect a 2500-3000pt force of whichever army I choose, so this is a wieghty decision to say the least.
Thanks in advance: Beardy Bearderson.
In your position, I would go skaven. You already have two elite armies, so horde would seem to offer the greatest variance in play style.
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Sir Kentley your a mind reader. I think I need to begin collecting a horde army, but im torn between Orcs&Goblins and Skaven. I need help from experienced O&G players and experienced Skaven players to make my decision. I want an army thats fun to play in 8th, beastmen are a close second only because they can choose from common magic lores, and because they have access to chariots as core.
I like the models from all three armies. but there are certain things that I like about each army. O&G have access to a rediculous amount of characters and troops, not to mention I love feral orcs in 8th because they have frenzy and magic resistance! skaven have plague cencer bearers, stormvermin and some cool heroes, im not a big fan of clanrats or skaven slaves though, so im not sure if i could run an army with only stormvermin as core.
Beastmen have lots of chariots (i LOVE chariots) cygors, gors, Bestigors, centigors and chariots would be the only units I would use if I were to choose beastmen, not sure if this would be competitive enough.
I could write lists for each army and then maybe yall could get a better idea of what im going for... thanks in advance for any comments.
Sincerely: Beardy Bearderson