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    I was deadset on playing Dark Elves, read through the Army Book a few times, fell in love with the fluff, the models are pretty nice too, and I just love some of the rules. The whole cold blooded killers tickles me in a way that really nothing else can, and they're graceful in movement and fast. It just touches my heart.

    But, I was reading the Vampire Count codex, and now I feel the same way towards Lahmia. The whole evil seduction hits hits annother part of my heart. And the concept of having leathal murderous, beautiful women is great, definately one of my loves. But they are different to the Dark Elves, they walk up to their enimy and just turn their own heart against them. Which is just a void that cold blooded assassins killing everyone in a mad bloodlust can't fill.

    If I play Dark Elves, it's going to cost quite allot more. Since I love cavalry, I'd be buying massloads of Dark riders. And if I were to play Vampire Counts I'd be taking loads of Dire Wolves, I could actually get 20 models for 60$ (bitz ordering just the wolf bodies) with them, 4 times as much as with Dark Riders.

    Then, for Dark Elves, I have the amazing War Hydra at my fingertips (I'm a huge fan of dragons and such), where as Lahmia doesn't have anything like that. But then I could also play Tomb Kings (looked through their Army Book too, infact I've looked through nearly all of the Army Books, and have them all here with me because I borrowed them from my friends, sadly I have to pay them a buck a book for rent), and they have the amazing Bone Giant. And the Bone Giant is one of my favorites, not because of the model, but because of the picture in the codex, which I would convert the model to look exactly like.

    Then, the Dark Elves have bolt throwers and repeater crossbows.

    But the Tomb Kings don't offer much on the lines of a Dragon, which is one my my major reasons in playing Fantasy, so they are pretty much out the window, but damn do I love the Bone Giant model.

    And then the Lizardmen have the Slaan which is great, and I love the one special slaan character model. Sadly I hate the lizardmen models, and could never play them.

    Anyway, here's a synopsis of the great points in my mind about the armies.

    Dark Elves:
    Great Cavalry
    War Hydra
    The best Dragon out of the other choices
    Graceful leathal cold blooded killers (my kind of girls).
    Bolt Throwers

    Lahmia:
    Dire Wolves.
    Dragons which can be used by more characters
    Mages that can wear armour
    Undead (definately cool)
    Invocation of Nehmek
    Seduction

    Tomb Kings:
    Bone giants
    Great magic
    Undead

    Lizardmen:
    Slaan

    Wood Elves:
    Dragons
    (I need to look into them more)

    Human Armies:
    No.

    Dwarves:
    No.

    Chaos:
    Most likely a no. Don't really want to look into them, their rules are waaaay to complex and Tzeentch still has to test for magic (unlike in 40k). And Slaanesh isn't as great now. And I hate the other two with a passion.

    Ogre Kingdoms:
    They look like me.
    Not really my kind of army though, reminds me of the mother/son serial killer (the son was like a baby and the mom killed for him).

    Orks and Goblins:
    No, I hated them in 40k, I hate them here?

    Skaven:
    Gag.

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    just do not do wood elves, i collected them for about a year, but then realised that the reason i was being slaughtered every time is that I was collecting a bad army, not my skills. Now I collect Dwarves and I beat almost everyone i face.
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    From what I hear from you, you like vampire counts and Dark elkves the most, right?!

    Lahmia is said to be the worst vampire type ( I heard) so take that in your mind.

    If you want to do a killer dark elves list, you could use assasins and shades and what you like, witch elves

    You also shouldn't use an army made of dark riders, cause that's just too much of the same models.

    Wood elves aren't bad cllzzrd, they are one of the most irritating lists out there, and are one of the better races.SO it's not about the list, really, I mean it.
    Maybe you have to build another kind of list ( archers,wardancers and dryads are always good in combinations)

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    Originally posted by Zephyro@Jan 2 2005, 16:29
    Lahmia is said to be the worst vampire type ( I heard) so take that in your mind.

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    Yes, Lahmians have a bad reputation. There&#39;s a thread in the VC forum debating them. But the VC army does let you play a lot of variations. Blood Dragons are fabled character killers. Von Carstein are good all around. Necrarchs have awesome magic. And Strigois, if used well, are vicious killers too.

    Necromancers can&#39;t wear armor (except, if I remember rightly, for the Bone Armour, which disappears after the first failed armor save). Not all vampires can wear armor either. Lahmians can&#39;t. You have to rely on ward saves and restoring lost health with Invocation of Nehek.

    Anyhow, VC&#39;s the army I started with a few months back and I have a blast playing them. On the other hand, I didn&#39;t have a blast getting my butt kicked by a much more experienced Dark Elf general just last week. Those crossbows are nasty. And that&#39;s something else about VC: no missile weapons (except that the Lahmian can take a magic bow made just for her--aint it sweet?--and the banshee&#39;s howl occurs during the shooting phase).

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    Well, as you can see the armies I want to start are going to be a challange (which I love, and I wouldn&#39;t have it any other way). And yes, it&#39;s pretty much between Dark Elves and Lahmia. Either one from what I hear can be amazing if used correctly. And after starting with Dark Eldar in 40k, I&#39;m quite used to challanges.

    Lahmia has an amazingly high initiative, which is great. And, ya you&#39;re rght only Blood Dragons can wear armour. But I hate their models.

    The other possibility would be for me to play whatever the Necromancer baced army is. I love magic. But, still, I like Lahmia the most out of any of them.

    And Dark Elves are currently the home ground and the Vampire Counts are challanging them. And it&#39;s neck in neck for which I like better.

    I love both dark and necromancery, but I like Necromancery better.

    Invocation of Nehmek is amazing.

    And I wish that the Vampire Counts had some monstrous rare creature. Because if they did (especially a Bone Giant) I would definately be sold. But that&#39;s what&#39;s really giving me the most trouble, allong with the fact that the Vampire Count dragon isn&#39;t as nice as the Dark Elf one.

    Anyway, right this second, Vampire Counts are winning.
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    You said you liked the lithe, vicious killer aspect alot. If you played Lahmians, the only such models would be your Vampire heroes; the rest of the army is a shambling horde of rotting death. If you play Dark Elves, most of the army has that quality to them. I just wanted to make sure you realized that undead armies are not as graceful as Elven ones, although they do have other qualities that help them.

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    Dark elves have much more tactical flexibilty, cause Vc are much about just pushing your army forward, and making new regiments while doing that.

    Dark elves have got a hero choice which has the funny name: &#39;&#39;ASSASIN&#39;&#39;
    I bet you know what he can do

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    Originally posted by SkyTyrant@Jan 2 2005, 22:22
    You said you liked the lithe, vicious killer aspect alot. If you played Lahmians, the only such models would be your Vampire heroes; the rest of the army is a shambling horde of rotting death. If you play Dark Elves, most of the army has that quality to them. I just wanted to make sure you realized that undead armies are not as graceful as Elven ones, although they do have other qualities that help them.
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    Yes, I did realise this. Chances are either way I&#39;m going to do both armies, it&#39;s just a matter of which army I do right now.
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    Originally posted by SkyTyrant@Jan 3 2005, 04:22
    You said you liked the lithe, vicious killer aspect alot. If you played Lahmians, the only such models would be your Vampire heroes; the rest of the army is a shambling horde of rotting death. If you play Dark Elves, most of the army has that quality to them. I just wanted to make sure you realized that undead armies are not as graceful as Elven ones, although they do have other qualities that help them.
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    Hes right archonofdeath,DE have more lithe models,but I have one really kinda strange idea...Undead Dark Elves,played with necrmancy too much and Poooth&#33; they are undead.You get the cool DE models and lahmian models and necromancy.Everyones a winner.
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    Yeah, but he does not gain all the assasin units he likes.

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