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    Lord

    Valten
    Horse
    Ghal Maraz

    2 Empire wizards
    1 on horse
    Both Level 2

    1 Hero level commander (whatever its called in empire army)
    Barded warhorse
    Full plate armour
    Shield
    Lance
    Van horstmanns speculum

    8 Inner circle knights
    Lance
    Full plate armour
    Shield
    Barded Warhorse
    Full command
    Led by Valten

    8 Knights
    Lance
    Full plate armour
    Shield
    Barded Warhorse
    Led by Commander
    Full command

    8 Knights
    Lance
    Full plate armour
    Shield
    Barded Warhorse
    Full command

    20 Swordsmen
    Hand weapons
    Spears
    Shields
    Light armour
    Full command
    Griffon standard

    8 Handgunner detachment

    20 Swordsmen
    Hand weapons
    Spears
    Shields
    Light armour
    Full command

    16 Spearmen
    Full command
    Light armour
    Shields

    8 Hangunner detachment

    What do you think?
    Could you tell me approximately how many points it is.
    I am preparing some different lists and when i find one everyone thinks is good i will use it in the storm of chaos campaign.
    Dont tell me tobuy the book because i cant afford to buy the book for every army because i might collect it sometime.
    The idea is probably quite obvious. The knights and valten charge forward and the knights should win all their combats because of casualties and valtens awesome prescence. I expect valten to cause about 4 kills on any troops with ghal maraz this +4 is passed on to all combats within 12".
    The other troops then attack where necessary or watch valten kill half the enemy armyby himself then wait for the remainder tocharge and get impaled on spears or killed by ranks of swordsmen.
    Thats the plan anyway.


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    I don't have the empire book but if Valten is a special character then er you have to ask your opponent to use him and also some tournaments don't let you use special characters.

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    Valten is in the new white dwarf.
    It says Valten is a lord choice who may be taken in an empire army. In addition he uses up two of your hero choices as well.
    I think because of that i may be one character over limit for size of army. If i am i will drop a wizard.
    Most games i play are friendly so i would always be able to use him anyway

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    If its an official special character, you may use him without your opponents concent, though in tournaments they arent usually allowed.

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    Valten is definitely official. His rules are in white dwarf 288 (UK)
    Anyway, what do you think of the army?
    If characters are allowed or not does not matter that much.
    Approx how many points do you think it is. (valten is 490 but almost indestructable)

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    Why are you saying he is almost indestructable?

    Afew races have good characters that are hard examples : Tyrion, Archaon, Thorgrim, Malekeith (( he's ok ))

    All these are Good so ya know afew races have good characters.

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    Ok I'll take a look:

    Valten
    Horse
    Ghal Maraz


    One tough character, very useful in combat and even better with Ghal Maraz. But altough he almost never wants to die, don't feel he must be put in a position to do that.

    2 Empire wizards
    1 on horse
    Both Level 2


    Good, magic is always welcome. Any idea of which lore or what magic items? I would make one a scroll caddy (he carries just dispel scrolls)

    1 Hero level commander (whatever its called in empire army)
    Barded warhorse
    Full plate armour
    Shield
    Lance
    Van horstmanns speculum


    Everyone always use this but with decent magic armour and sword this charcter should be able to stand up pretty well in combat or a challenge.

    8 Inner circle knights
    Lance
    Full plate armour
    Shield
    Barded Warhorse
    Full command
    Led by Valten


    Nice, hard hitting fast unit. I would give them a magic banner, probably steel standard or war banner. But just make sure these hit where need most, don't throw them away vs high T and Save units. If they can't break them then they most likely won't

    8 Knights
    Lance
    Full plate armour
    Shield
    Barded Warhorse
    Led by Commander
    Full command


    See above

    8 Knights
    Lance
    Full plate armour
    Shield
    Barded Warhorse
    Full command


    Same as first

    20 Swordsmen
    Hand weapons
    Spears
    Shields
    Light armour
    Full command
    Griffon standard


    Ok first off can't have a magic standard unless an Elector Count is present, and he's a lord so no banner. But swordsmen are a good unit, good save in cc and can hold up a unit well if they don't loose CR by much. I take it the spears is a typo?

    8 Handgunner detachment

    Ok, I'm not sure about these. They are move and fire, so if their parent unit is going to be marching towards the enemy these won't be shooting much. I would suggest Halberdiers, the +1S will come in handy if you get into combat with T4 units.

    20 Swordsmen
    Hand weapons
    Spears
    Shields
    Light armour
    Full command


    See above swordsmen

    16 Spearmen
    Full command
    Light armour
    Shields

    A very defensive unit, fights with two ranks when charged or in 2nd combat round, so if you get the chance charge. It's better to loose the use of the second rank then to loose the first, other than that good choice.

    8 Hangunner detachment

    See above detactment

    I've not added points up yet, post what the wizards have and I might. Hope I've helped.

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    Originally posted by The Horsemen Of The Apocolypse@Nov 26 2003, 20:59
    Why are you saying he is almost indestructable?
    Because when he dies he can come back to life on a passed LD test (LD 10)
    A Promise to a dead man means nothing.

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    Good army list but not enough numbers, you should stick some free companies in there to.

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    Lol, the stallion loves those free companies.

    Tyrion is indestructable, hes the rock and the hard place put toghether, nothing short of a cannon ball should be able to kill him, (at least id like to think so).

    OK, thats a lot of cav, but there are a coulple things id change. first why no white wolves? they're great. secound, with a offensive cav army like this you dont want handgunners as detachments, their more or fire means they either slow you down or are worthless. stick them toghether as a regular unit or screw 'em and take halberdiers. the new valten is all right but i like the old one better, cheaper and better looking.

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