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Hey, I really am getting very interested in warhammer fantasy. I keep hearing how much more tactical it is and I really want more tactical than 40k. So, I decided what the hell, might as well try it out.
So first, will I need a rulebook or should I just go to my store, possibly borrow an army and have someone teach me? Or, should I get a small army but no rulebook and get a codex? Or get both rulebook and army?
Next, I have no idea which army to go for. What I really want is an army I can have all on horseback. When I say all on horseback, I mean ALL on horseback. When the Rohan riders charged in the siege of Gondor, that was it. My love for the tactical ability of the quick and nimble horse was forever set in my mind. Can that be done with any army, or is it just cool but never works in the game? Note, I am willing to take dragons too, they work just as well.
In the meanwhile, I will look around, but suggestions from the players will really help. Thanks!
EDIT: Just saw the prices of the cavalry, and wow are they expensive. Now I either want some cheap alternative to the cavalry, or have an army consisting of large quantities of infantry with possibly some siege equipment for long range affairs (bowman, etc.)
Last edited by flakdragon; January 28th, 2007 at 03:07.
Personally you should pick up the rule book and the army book both really needed. You can get some one to teach you but you will want to make sure they know everything you wouldnt want to miss out on rules because your teacher doesnt know them.
hope this helps
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Well to start off, you should probably have someone teach you the basics of the game so that you can decide whether or not you really want to play. Then I'd suggest buying an army book and ordering the small rulebook, I found it here at Battlewagon Bits, but I'm sure there's other sites with it. It has all the rules the big book has.
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Now, if you're still interested in cavalry, remember that cavalry cost (points wise) on average 2-3 times the cost of foot soldiers, eight Knights Errant cost more than sixteen Dwarf Warriors. So, you acctually get more bang for your buck buying cavalry models. If you want to go with cavalry, then Brettonians are the choice for you.
But if you want lots of infantry with some long range, Dwarfs or Empire are what you're looking for. Dwarfs are literally all infantry and range, they have the best war machines in the game (with the Empire a very close second) and their infantry are very good. In terms of "bowmen" type range, they have crossbows and handgunnerers, both good ranged weapons.
The Empire is good at everything. They have some good shooting, and decent, cheap infantry, and they also has magic and cavalry.
First of all let me take this opportunity to welcome you to Fantasy Battle You'll soon find yourself engrossed in a world of dragons, elves, men, dwarfs, magic, mighty heroes and strange creatures.
Secondly, don't be put off by the price of some cavalry. I'm guessing you saw the boxes for Grail Knights/Chaos knight. Well they are very elite cavalry and you won't buying many of those anyway, so don't worry too much at first. Plus there's no reason why you couldn't (with the help of green stuff) convert a box of Brettonian knights to the cavalry of your choice^_^
The best way to start is to get someone to walk you through a simple game, step by step. There is no better place to do this than to head to your local GW who will be more than willing to help you out
The rulebook is imperative, with such an in depth rules system (more so than 40k, which is much easier to pick up and play) you'll often find yourself asking what happens in this situation, or what are the rules for this. In which case you'll curse yourself for not having one.
So you basically have three options for all cavalry army as far as I see it. That's a Chaos cavalry army (usually Khorne in this case), a High Elf cavalry army, or (the obvious choice) a Brettonian cavalry army.
Although I have a sneaky suspicion that you will want to mix it up before long, whichever army you go for
As for lots of infantry and siege equipment. The Dwarfs and Empire spring to mind. Both have large amounts of infantry and awesome war machines. You should definitely check those out.
Hope you enjoy the game, I'm sure you will. Be sure to keep us posted of how you get on
Wow, thanks for the welcome, I will be going to my shop thursday (my usual day) and get someone to go through everything, and I will hopefully be able to purchase a rulebook and peer through codexes of my choice.
For the cavalry, I saw the cheap prices of the Bretonnian cavalry and the High Elven cavalry, but the expense of the Chaos cavalry puts me off (50 USD for the basic one!). So I am now at a crossroads between Bretonnians and High Elves, although I would like something I can later expand on. So I will look up the tacticas for both and find a choice, and anyone is welcome to help . Thanks.
Welocome to Fantasy. When I started WHFB I always was looking for some strong cavalry units and ended up choosing Bretonnia as my first army.
First off, Bretonnia has some great looking models. They have arguably the best cavalry in the game. Its what they specialize in. Bretonnians are a very good starter army as well for getting into Fantasy, if not they best, for they aren't the most complicated army to learn tactics-wise. They are very mobile being as most of the army is mounted, they have very, very good armor saves and a ward save for all units and, they have high strength attacks when they charge, which they usually do. The downside of the army is they do not have the strongest magic phase and they can become very one dimensional. Most of the time your strategy will consist of charging the enemy, attempting to break them on the first round of combat, chasing them down, and then charging the next unit.
High Elves also have strong cavalry, from what I've seen and read from their army book, its behind Bretonnians as the 2nd best in the game. However, High Elves will also offer you a much strong magical army than Bretonnia and will give you alot more variety than Bretonnia will.
I've played Bretonnia for 6-8 months now and am currently making a Tomb Kings army as well. My advice to you is if your looking for amazing cavalry that can be supplemented with some infantry and a bit of archers/catapults, definately give Bretonnia a try. If your looking for a strong block of cavalry but want more variety, High Elves or even Empire might be a better choice, as they are both more diverse tactically. I'd definately try to talk to some of the players at your local Games Workshop store or gaming club if you can and get their take on their armies or even try out a store army or a buddies army if you can before you buy something. Getting a bunch of models for an army and then finding out they weren't everything you thought they were can be hard on the wallet.
Anyways, welcome again to Fantasy and good luck with your choice of army. I hope you enjoy the game =D. If I can offer you any extra insight into either Bretonnians or Tomb Kings I'd be more than happy to help. Either send me a PM or contact me on MSN if there is anything i can do to help.
I have now chosen....empire
Being pretty cheap monetarily, and having the ability of varieties of cavalry, I was sold. I can still have variety while still maintaining the horsiness. So, here we go:
Templar lord on Horse....definitly. I will have two groups of outriders, average size at my main flanks. In the middle force I will have mortars/cannon to lay down some fire. I have knights of the inner circle to accompany the templar lord in a charge. Then I have either another inner circle or pistoliers hit flanks and crush them. If I have an enemy who charges into CQC, I have the inner circle/pistoliers/templar lord move in on their back or side flanks and have the outriders have run with them (15 shots, oh baby!).
So, good idea? Thursday still stands as my test day, so I will see how it goes.
EDIT: Uh oh, just saw the last post and now I am conflicted between Brets and Empire. I may just starts out with brets and convert the knights to Empire knights, etc. I shall see...
Last edited by flakdragon; January 31st, 2007 at 02:18.