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OK, I'll try to adapt my HoC list to the new WoC List... My list was focused on Tz, but I dont find the Tz mark particularly attractive at the present time. Time to bring some blood-red Kh units in support...
Exalted sorcerer of Tz(Mk of Tz, lvl 4, Barded steed and staff of change): 370 pts
Sorcerer of Tz (Mk of Tz): 125
Sorcerer of chaos (dispel scroll, Barded steed): 150
Sorcerer of chaos (Barded steed): 125
Chosen Warriors of Kh x12 (Shield, add weapon, Mk of kh): 292
Warriors of Tz x20 (Shield, Mk of Tz, musician, bearer): 298
Marauders x 24 (Shield, bearer, musician): 162
Warhounds x5: 30
Warhounds x5: 30
Warhounds x5: 30
Chosen knights of Kh x6 (Mk of Kh): 268
Chaos Knights of Kh x6: 208
Tz Chariot (Mk of Tz): 110
I've replaced my pack of beastman and the bray shaman with the marauders and the Sorcerer of Tz. I've lost power dices, but i've gain Khornie units and another unit of 20 Warriors.
Overall it aint that bad...
it will be nice when the new rules come out and tzeench get a boost but otherwise NICE!
im just wondering are the scorcerors lvl2 or 1 because if there lvl1 drop the charriot and make them all lvl2 (all those spells are going to hurt your oponent big time!). you have 12 power dice (if the scorcerors are lvl2) and 7 dispell dice and a scroll!
on the fluff side KHORNE HATES TZEENCH!
i will leave it to you though.
Give the Warriors of Tze that Magic Missile magic banner maybe? aside from that, looks ok considering the current limitations on WoC armies.
The sorcerers are level 2, so yes 12 PD and 7 dispel dices.
Fluff wise, you are right. However the cost-effectiveness of the mk of Kh is very seductive. My weak mind is easily corrupt when I compare it with what the mk of Tz gives... I think you will see many other weak minds using the mk of Kh with other Tainted Gdz.
I'll be waiting for the new army book before removing the Tz colors of my cavalry. I still have the hope (Be or not be Tzish, that is the question...) that the new marks will be better. So until that time, I'll be EVEN MORE corrupt: I'll use Tz colors even if they have a mk of Kh...
You can hit me...
The magic banner is 50 pts, getting 50 pts is a tough choice. Any suggestion on what to remove to get that banner? The chosen option to the knights? The dispel scroll and 3 marauders?
Erm, Chosen Knights are so nice...
Lose the Scroll, i think you have enough Ddice. And drop a unit of Hounds.
Then give the large (Tze) Warrior unit the banner, make them 18 strong (6x3) and give them Halberds or 2xHWs, and a Champ. Boost their combat killing potential also.
Banner of the gods? id lose a wizard and have a BSB, 12" stubborn? need i say more (tzeentch needs it more than Khorne ) At the very least if you dont want a BSB then get a exalted hero for your marauder unit. Banner of Wrath is certainly a idea, i think the tzeentch warriors however could certainly do better with a warbanner.
Fluff said, Khorne dosnt hate tzeentch he dosnt like any of the other gods, he dislikes Slaanesh the most! Tzeentch could easily have a alliance with Khorne for a short term thing
I'll drop the scroll and a few marauders. I keep the hounds with my sorcerers at the begining to take hits from shooting or act as speed bump. Hounds are so good at putting a problem at the opponent's plan... I'll get the banner of wrath...
I'll play test the 20 w/ shield vs the 18 w/ halberd. Thanks for the idea.
Exalted Champ cannot be BSB, only the Aspiring champ can. That option would be usefull, however, it is very expensive: 225 pts! It is almost the cost of the unit they would help...
I think this option would be more useful with a close combat oriented army: center frontal style. My tactic style is more to blast magic, force my opponent to approach, **** his approach with hounds and couter charge him.
never said a exalted champion could be a bsb, just said you could either have a BSB or if you didnt want to spend the points on banner of the gods you take a exalted hero. Warriors of chaos is a close combat army what do you think your chaos warriors are for exactly! having tea parties?
I misunderstood your statment. Loosing two sorcerer is totally out of question for this list.
Tea would be nice, but i prefer to use them as a refused flank.
never said loose two either, i said you could lose one and
1) take a bsb with banner of the gods
2) or a exalted if you didnt want to spend than many points on a model, your army is going to suffer against high armour armies.