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5 Chaos Warhounds-
5 Chaos Warhounds-
5 Marauder Horsemen-
5 Marauder Horsemen-
25 Chaos Marauders-
12 Chaos Warriors-
Banner of Wrath-
5 Chaos Knights-
This is a powerful and balanced competitive list. The main weakness is the trolls' stupidity, and the lack of a combat character, but overall it's solid. Can anyone possibly improve it?
Last edited by DavidWC09; December 21st, 2008 at 18:12. Reason: No point costs, please. ~DavidVC04
Remove the individual points listings...it AIN'T allowed
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As the above poster pointed out - remove the detailed points cost. It's only allowed to post the points total for a specified unit or character.
I would do the wizards as more aggressive casters. Maybe Mark of Tzeentch and some items that boosts the casting capabilities, like the skull.
Trolls are good in combat and cool to use, but If you take Dragon Ogres instead you get a tough unit that hits harder.
Instead of the Marauders I would go for more horsemen and a LOT of more warhounds. In order to get costs down I would choose between flails or throwing axes on the horsemen. They become confused otherwise. I only use axes and use the marauder horsemen as a decoy.
"The more choices you force the opponent to make, the better the chance for you to capitalize on his mistakes"
Ld8 is a big meh for Trolls. Those Horsemen are also too expensive, flails and MoSlaanesh or Khorne is really all you need.
I'd also look into making your Sorcerors a bit more survivable, even a barded steed would help. As it is, they are fairly easy to take out, force a challenge and they can be taken down by moderately equipped Heroes.
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I love it when people put that they have a 'unbeatable' list as I've been playing for around 20 years and I'm yet to find one so first of all congratulations on that.
As far as the list is concerned I think changing one of the sorcerers to giving it the MOT and a disk would be the way to go as it will still be relativly cheap but just have a bit more punch on the offense but be able to stay out of trouble easier.
I wouldn't worry about not having a combat character as even your basic troop isn't too bad and I think at lower point games it's best to keep your characters cheap.
I would also suggest dropping the unit of Marauders down to 20 and using the extra points on another unit of Warhounds. At 20 strong it will still be durable enough to withstand most things and you wont have too many ranks just doing nothing, (I'm assuming you would be running it 5x5), as in a Chaos army I think more models in base contact fighting is more important than ranks.
I do like trolls and think they definately have there place in a Chaos army but I usually reserve them for bigger point battles as at 1500 points if they even sit still for 1 or 2 rounds then it's going to cost you. Maybe I would try adding a chariot instead of these as it will still have the punch but also not the risk. You could also use your extra unit of Warhounds to protect this and make sure it gets in to combat unscathed.
First off this list is far from beatable, I'll say that now before you find out for yourself. Like Esgalisil I have also been playing this game for longer than most of the people in this forum have been alive and I've never seen an unbeatable list, strong lists yes, but certainly not unbeatable.
Anyway The trolls I feel would be better replaced with Ogres with great weapons and the Mark of Nurgle. These guys are great for dealing with enemy monsters believe it or not.
The Banner of Rage on the knights is a good investment especially when combined with the Mark of Nurgle.
Last edited by Jared van Kell; December 23rd, 2008 at 13:03.
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