Tournament List 2250, The Valhalla Knights

[DraagDarkfire]

I would go for a sword of striking on your exalted...having 5 attacks which hit on a 2 is a very good deal in my opinion.

[dapredator66]

Instead of making another thread, I decided to put up the inverse list of what I was using here. I actually built upon all my weaknesses and created a heavy infantry, heavy magic list.

My basic tactic is to turtle my way through the battlefield unleashing my magic and hellcanon. Knights will be placed on one flank and the hellcanon on the other thus forming a sort of refusing flank.

Sorcerer Lord, Lvl4, MoS, Steed of Slaanesh, Third Eye of Tzeentch, Dispel Scroll, Infernal Puppet, Enchanted Shield, Collar of Khorne; 425 pts
Chaos Sorcerer, Lvl2, MoT, Barded Steed, Power Familiar, Book of Secrets; 206 pts
Exalted Hero, BSB, Shield, Barded Steed, Banner of the Gods; 281 pts

15 Chaos Warriors, MoS, Full Command; 280 pts
15 Chaos Warriors, MoS, Musician, War Banner; 293 pts
24 Chaos Marauders, MoS, Full Command; 174 pts
2x 5 Chaos Warhounds; XX pts
5 Marauders Horsemen, MoS, Musician, Light Armour, Flails; 96 pts
5 Chaos Knights, Musician, Standard Bearer; 230 pts
Hellcanon; XXX pts

Total 2250 pts

Do any of you guys have critics and comments. I made some unusual magic items choice on my lord and I am curious to see other opinions. I also went to a tournament using about the same list and faced Lizardmen, Deamons and Skaven (What do you think were the results?).

[Galakhad]

Some suggestions..

Maybe mark of tzeentch would serve your wizard lord better. 5+ ward makes a difference...

The other thing that you might consider is freeing up some points to get another unit of marauder horse. That way maybe one of them will survive long enough to harass enemy war-machines.

The other thing you could try is swapping knights for two chariots. They seem to work great with infantry and are less of a fire-magnet.

I like your list a lot. Go go infantry!

[dapredator66]

Some suggestions..

Maybe mark of tzeentch would serve your wizard lord better. 5+ ward makes a difference...

The other thing that you might consider is freeing up some points to get another unit of marauder horse. That way maybe one of them will survive long enough to harass enemy war-machines.

The other thing you could try is swapping knights for two chariots. They seem to work great with infantry and are less of a fire-magnet.

I like your list a lot. Go go infantry!

Thanks for the comments! Your comment on my lord poor ward save is quite pertinent. I actually used the Armour of Morslieb in my last five games (instead of shield+collar). What I began to realize is that my lord is almost impossible to kill with a steed of Slaanesh. Given the fact that all my units are very close to each other, I never found myself without a unit to safely hide my lord inside it. What I am trying to achieve with the Collar is adding some MR to protect my BSB from spell such as Law of Gold, Buboes or any other spell that could kill or disable the banner.

As for the marauders horsemen, I guess it's just a matter of finding the points. I like the chariot idea, I guess I should eventually try it.

[Galakhad]

In fact, I'm thinking about similar list at the moment (with infantry emphasis).

At first I was also looking at the banner of the gods, but now i`m leaning towards the following setup (which works very similar to botg, but costs less):

Bsb+war banner inside huge block of marauders with fc, armor, shields (slaanesh or maybe even tzeentch) and block of Warriors with rapturous standard.

Marauders are unlikely to flee cuz of +6 static combat resolution (In fact, they are more likely to actually win), while warriors are unlikely to flee cuz of the re-rolls.

Still not sure which approach is better. Posted in case you would like to test it.

[dapredator66]

In fact, I'm thinking about similar list at the moment (with infantry emphasis).

At first I was also looking at the banner of the gods, but now i`m leaning towards the following setup (which works very similar to botg, but costs less):

Bsb+war banner inside huge block of marauders with fc, armor, shields (slaanesh or maybe even tzeentch) and block of Warriors with rapturous standard.

Marauders are unlikely to flee cuz of +6 static combat resolution (In fact, they are more likely to actually win), while warriors are unlikely to flee cuz of the re-rolls.

Still not sure which approach is better. Posted in case you would like to test it.

Yep it should work (and that's a massive +7 SCR [3 ranks, 1 banner, 1 bsb, 1 War Banner, 1 number superiority]).

If I were to do it, I would still use 3 blocks. 25 Marauders block with BSB (but with normal magic items), 20 Chaos Warriors with War Banner and 10-12 Warriors with Rapturous. This could actually solve my dilemma about using hero without any magical protection. I'll post if I ever get to try it.

[Galakhad]

Yep it should work (and that's a massive +7 SCR [3 ranks, 1 banner, 1 bsb, 1 War Banner, 1 number superiority]).

If I were to do it, I would still use 3 blocks. 25 Marauders block with BSB (but with normal magic items), 20 Chaos Warriors with War Banner and 10-12 Warriors with Rapturous. This could actually solve my dilemma about using hero without any magical protection. I'll post if I ever get to try it.

Can't unit champion accept/issue challenge to keep bsb safe in case of dragon or similar? I mean... Exalted with 1+ save is not that easy to kill, unless challenged, even without magic items.

But your idea seems good anyway as there are more units that way.

Other thing.... 20 chaos warriors seems a bit pricey. I try to field them in groups of 14 to keep costs reasonable.

P.S.: my bad on that CR. Forgot about outnumber