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    Standard list, but wanting to win :)

    I play down at my local store and i'm sorry to say i don't win to often, this is probably down to me been new to the game and most of the time i forget what gear i have on my lords and heroes. I have been writing 3k lists but most of the time the people i play with only have a 2k army and i'm forced to quickly write a 2k list, which i'm sure isn't any good.

    so decided to look at it properly and well this is what i've got:

    Lord
    Sorcerer lord
    Level four, Lore of shadow
    Spell Familiar
    Armour of Destiny
    Collar of Khorne (purely because last week i played against lore of death and he killed my chaos lord with fate of bjuna in one go, so a 2+ward save would be nice)

    Heroes
    Exalted hero
    Mark of Khorne
    Juggernaut
    Talisman of preservation
    Favour of the gods
    Great weapon

    Chaos Sorcerer
    level two, mark of nurgle
    Infernal puppet
    Enchanted shield

    Core
    18 x Chaos warriors
    Additional hand weapon
    FC
    Mark of Khorne
    (lord in here?)

    15 x Chaos warriors
    shields
    FC
    Mark of tzeentch
    (level two in here)

    5 x marauder horsemen
    mark of khorne
    flails
    light armour

    Special
    5 x chaos knights
    Mark of khorne
    bs, musician
    (exlated here)

    Rare
    Hellcannon

    All advice will be greatly appreciated

    Thanks


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    I'd run your Lord a bit differently:
    Blood of Tzeentch (could save you from a miscast or from failing to meet spell costs)
    Necrotic Phylectory (this will pass any test except leadership and ignores Death and Nurgle magic)

    I'd give your Jugger a Charmed Shield instead of Favor, one cannonball could really ruin your day. (In close combat you won't use it ofc)

    I'd drop the champions on the 18-block warriors and give them all shields to survive the arrow/bullets/rocket/cannonball/warpray/mortar/stone storms (get the hint?). Your block of 18 will likely do more damage with halberds than with AHW since your supporting rank only gets one hit.

    The Warriors with the Sorcerer will need a champion though.

    Hope this helps.
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    thank you very much for the advice.

    Blood of Tzeentch looks good, but in my book says you can't re-roll a 1, so i would still miscast. I think i will still use it, looks like it will come in handy.
    Necrotic Phylectory, passing all tests apart from ld is really nice. i know i said before i was wanting the collar due to facing the lore of death but in reality i have only faced that lore the once, was only because of how affective it was that i wanted the protection, i'll be sure to use it if i think i'll be facing it though.

    yeah a cannon ball really would ruin my day, charmed shield it is

    i don't have the models with the halberds unfortunately and i wouldn't like fielding them when there not on the model, but i will look into them. might try to fit a blasted standard in that group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storey View Post
    Blood of Tzeentch looks good, but in my book says you can't re-roll a 1, so i would still miscast.
    Miscasts have nothing to do with rolls of 1 in 8th edition. You now get miscasts when you make Irresisteble Force with a double 6.

    A double 1 is nothing more than a terrible low roll now =)

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    ofc they are lol how could i forget that!!

    Well blood of tzeentch just got even better

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    Comments in blue mate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Storey View Post

    Lord
    Sorcerer lord
    Level four, Lore of shadow
    Spell Familiar
    Armour of Destiny
    Collar of Khorne (purely because last week i played against lore of death and he killed my chaos lord with fate of bjuna in one go, so a 2+ward save would be nice)

    Looking good.

    Heroes
    Exalted hero
    Mark of Khorne
    Juggernaut
    Talisman of preservation
    Favour of the gods
    Great weapon

    Consider swapping favour for the Charmed shield. This boy will be one big tempting target for enemy cannons and the like. The actual shield does nothing but the 2+ Ignore first hit is nice.

    Chaos Sorcerer
    level two, mark of nurgle
    Infernal puppet
    Enchanted shield

    Looks good. Not sure the Shield is worth it though. If you need points drop it. The 3rd eye of tzeentch is always good. Stealing the Lore of Life off Teclis is rather awesome! So is stealing Ogre Magic

    Core
    18 x Chaos warriors
    Additional hand weapon
    FC
    Mark of Khorne
    (lord in here?)

    I'm wary about putting Sorcerers into combat units. we HAVE to challenge and if you come up against a combat hero you've not got long to live. Also be warned about miscasting in units. A big str10 template on a unit of warriors will make you cry. Consider putting the Banner fo discipline on the Lords unit. This way your Lord will be LD9 and increase his Inspiring prescence! Or grab the Radiant standard for a cheap re-roll.

    15 x Chaos warriors
    shields
    FC
    Mark of tzeentch
    (level two in here)

    5 x marauder horsemen
    mark of khorne
    flails
    light armour

    Special
    5 x chaos knights
    Mark of khorne
    bs, musician
    (exlated here)


    If the exalted is going in here how about ditching his Talisman and using the points to give these guys the Blasted Standard? You could then give your Exalted the Chamed shield and the Dawnstone instead of the Talisman. This way he'll have a 2+ Ignore dirst hit, a 1+ Re-rollabe armour save and a 5+ Ward from shooting AND Magic resistance 1!!!


    Rare
    Hellcannon

    All advice will be greatly appreciated

    Thanks

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    Ok, thanks for the hips guys, here is my new list.

    Lord
    Sorcerer lord
    Level four, Lore of shadow
    Talisman of Preservation
    Book of Tzeentch
    Dispell scroll

    Heroes
    Exalted hero
    Mark of Khorne
    Juggernaut
    Dawn Stone
    Charmed Shield
    Halberd

    Chaos Sorcerer
    level two, mark of nurgle
    Infernal puppet
    Third eye of Tzeentch

    Core
    15 x Chaos warriors
    Additional hand weapon
    Standard Bearer, Musician
    Mark of Khorne
    (level two here, not where to put him really)


    18 x Chaos warriors
    shields
    FC
    Mark of tzeentch
    Standard of discipline
    (Lord in here, hopefully if I do roll a miscast the puppet will get me out of the worst of it)

    5 x Chaos warhounds

    5 x Chaos warhounds

    Special
    5 x chaos knights
    Mark of khorne
    bs, musician
    (exlated here)

    Rare
    Hellcannon


    OK i have a spare 50 points, is there anyway i can get a higher magic res or ward save on my nights? i'm playing against a HE player tomorrow and he just loves searing doom on my knights?

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    I don't believe you can steal lore of life spells as all the spells have an attribute that restores wounds.
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    Sadly, I've reached the same conclusion as Mr Pink. The attribute of lore of life describes it as an additional effect to the spell, hence you would be using a spell that heals

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    It would not be in our nature to use the lore of life anyway, that lore is for pointy ears that have a toughness of 3. Chaos needs no such magic....

    Lord
    Sorcerer lord
    Level four, Lore of shadow
    Talisman of Preservation
    Book of Tzeentch
    Dispell scroll

    What is the "Book of Tzeentch" ???
    5000 pts of WoC, 5000 pts of Orcs and now 3000 pts of Ogres...What was I thinking ????

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