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    My first tournament coming up 3000 point list

    Hey, so I have my first tournament coming up in a few weeks, and I really want to come out swinging my first time around. Tell me what you all think of the list I'm planning on bringing, can it compete?

    Lord-688-22.9%

    Sorcerer Lord 380pts

    Talisman of Preservation
    Infernal Puppet
    Third Eye of Tzeentch
    Charmed Shield
    Lore of Shadow

    Chaos Lord 308pts

    Helm of Many Eyes
    Armor of Destiny
    Favor of the Gods
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Halberd

    Hero-404-13.5%

    Exalted Hero 219pts

    Armor of Morrslieb
    Obsidian Trinket
    Stream of Corruption
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Halberd
    BSB

    Festus, the Leechlord 185pts

    Core-1194-39.8%

    Chaos Warriors 458pts *BSB Bunker*
    x23
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Shields
    Blasted Standard
    Full Command

    Chaos Warriors 444pts *Chaos Lord and Festus Unit*
    x22
    Mark of Khorne
    Banner of Eternal Flame
    Halberds
    Shields
    Full Command

    Chaos Marauders 292pts
    x50
    Mark of Khorne
    Great Weapons
    Standard Bearer
    Musician

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Special-270-9%

    Chaos Trolls 270pts
    x6

    Rare-355-11.8%

    Hellcannon 205pts

    Chaos Warshrine 150pts

    3001pts

    Any thoughts? I'm not really sure how I'm going to run the marauder formation yet, I'm torn between MoK and MoT. Also not sure what the standard lore in all comers lists are, I thought shadow would be good, maybe there is a better lore?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Noma View Post

    Lord-688-22.9%

    Sorcerer Lord 380pts

    Talisman of Preservation
    Infernal Puppet
    Third Eye of Tzeentch
    Charmed Shield
    Lore of Shadow

    Looks good to me

    Chaos Lord 308pts

    Helm of Many Eyes
    Armor of Destiny
    Favor of the Gods
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Halberd .

    Dude, this guy has two Enchanted items (the helm and favour). So you need to drop one. To be truthful you could probably make do with a simple Exalted. Our Heroes are a match for all but the toughest of Lord Choices so you can save some serious points by simply dropping him to an Exalted and giving him a 3+ Ward and a halberd.

    Hero-404-13.5%

    Exalted Hero 219pts

    Armor of Morrslieb
    Obsidian Trinket
    Stream of Corruption
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Halberd
    BSB

    This build is ok if you have another hero in his unit that is able to accept challenges. As it stands if there is an enemy hero in the unit you'll be forced into a challenge and, seeing as most opponents will carry magic weapons, you'll be splatted. The Talisman of Endurance is good enough when combined with Tzeentch.



    Festus, the Leechlord 185pts

    Core-1194-39.8%

    Chaos Warriors 458pts *BSB Bunker*
    x23
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Shields
    Blasted Standard
    Full Command

    Chaos Warriors 444pts *Chaos Lord and Festus Unit*
    x22
    Mark of Khorne
    Banner of Eternal Flame
    Halberds
    Shields
    Full Command

    IF you really want to, drop the flaming banner and grab the banner of rage. If will give your Lord and Festus Frenzy. I'd also consider finding the points for Soporific musk on your Lord. Combined with Festus special rule you can earn some serious Victory points if you pull it off.

    Chaos Marauders 292pts
    x50
    Mark of Khorne
    Great Weapons
    Standard Bearer
    Musician

    Nom Nom Nom.

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Special-270-9%

    Chaos Trolls 270pts
    x6

    Rare-355-11.8%

    Hellcannon 205pts

    Chaos Warshrine 150pts

    3001pts

    Any thoughts? I'm not really sure how I'm going to run the marauder formation yet, I'm torn between MoK and MoT. Also not sure what the standard lore in all comers lists are, I thought shadow would be good, maybe there is a better lore?

    When in doubt go Shadow. Heavens is good and is a lot like Shadow with some nice Hexes, buffs and damage spells so you couldn't go wrong with that Lore either. Comet can also give headaches to armies we hate........ Gun lines. Death Magic is also good for killing Character heavy armies like Skaven and Undead.

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    Alright, great advice as always Mr. Borak

    New list:

    Lord-380-12.7%

    Sorcerer Lord 380pts

    Talisman of Preservation
    Infernal Puppet
    Third Eye of Tzeentch
    Charmed Shield
    Lore of Shadow

    Hero-708-23.6%

    Exalted Hero 219pts

    Talisman of Endurance
    Obsidian Trinket
    Stream of Corruption
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Halberd
    BSB

    Festus, the Leechlord 185pts

    Exalted Hero 194pts

    Sporific Musk
    Armor of Destiny
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Halberd

    Chaos Sorcerer 115pts

    Dispel Scroll
    Enchanted Shield
    Death

    -I thought he might make a good addition, carries a scroll for further magic protection, and could possibly snipe a character

    Core-1197-39.8%

    Chaos Warriors 442pts *BSB and Death Sorcerer Bunker*
    x22
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Shields
    Blasted Standard
    Full Command

    Chaos Warriors 447pts *Hero and Festus Unit*
    x22
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Banner of Rage
    Halberds
    Shields
    Musician
    Standard Bearer

    -Considering leaving them without a mark, because of festus 5+ regen save

    Chaos Marauders 292pts
    x50
    Mark of Khorne
    Great Weapons
    Standard Bearer
    Musician

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Special-270-9%

    Chaos Trolls 270pts
    x6

    Rare-355-11.8%

    Hellcannon 205pts

    Chaos Warshrine 150pts

    2984pts

    Went with an hero instead of a lord, I realized the only thing seperating them was the HoME, and as good as it is, it's not worth the extra points. I always forget about the tali of endurance for some reason
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    No worries. As ever, comments in blue!

    Quote Originally Posted by Noma View Post

    Chaos Sorcerer 115pts

    Dispel Scroll
    Enchanted Shield
    Death

    -I thought he might make a good addition, carries a scroll for further magic protection, and could possibly snipe a character

    Aye, it's always good to have a scroll for those one off uber spells that don't get cast on irresistible. Problem is always fitting it in as that usually means having three sorcerers, which I think is a tad excessive on the Caster side of things. I know it's more points on heroes but I'd personally take an Exalted with the BoS and a scroll over this dude. Give him MoT and a shield and he's pretty handy in a fight. You could chuck this build on your BSB and invest the points you used on the 5th hero on getting another unit. Just cast the Miasma spell on one dice (3+ with MoT) and he'll never miscast.


    Core-1197-39.8%

    Chaos Warriors 442pts *BSB and Death Sorcerer Bunker*
    x22
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Shields
    Blasted Standard
    Full Command

    Chaos Warriors 447pts *Hero and Festus Unit*
    x22
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Banner of Rage
    Halberds
    Shields
    Musician
    Standard Bearer

    -Considering leaving them without a mark, because of festus 5+ regen save

    Yeah they don't need the MoT with a 5+ Regen. Leave them Markless or if you have a spare 30pts grab them MoN.

    Chaos Marauders 292pts
    x50
    Mark of Khorne
    Great Weapons
    Standard Bearer
    Musician

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Special-270-9%

    Chaos Trolls 270pts
    x6

    Rare-355-11.8%

    Hellcannon 205pts

    Chaos Warshrine 150pts
    Without favour in your list this guy isn't that handy. I would re-jig some items around and get Favour on someone or leave this guy at home and use the points for another Cannon.

    2984pts

    Went with an hero instead of a lord, I realized the only thing seperating them was the HoME, and as good as it is, it's not worth the extra points. I always forget about the tali of endurance for some reason

    Because we usually only ever take two Characters and they both get the 4+ Ward items that's why!! lol.

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    I thought about the BoS build before even rigging up the death sorcerer. I wouldn't feel safe giving the BSB the BoS build, because of spells from the lore of death and skaven plague magic(Which I hear is just nasty) Your probably right about the shrine, I'm going to see if I can come up with the points for a second cannon.

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    That's why I always go with Shadow Magic on the BoS guy. He can cast Miasma on one dice easily so there is no chance of Miscasting and it lets him cast miasma which leaves your Level 4 free to cast the nasty stuff like Withering or Enfeeble.

    Although, as I said, Death magic is really handy against Character heavy armies so you might be best off grabbing a Death Wizard. I just think 5 characters is far too heavy, although I have 2 Lords and 2 heroes in my 3k List so maybe it's not that bad....

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    I've decided to go with this:

    Lord-355-12.5%

    Sorcerer Lord 375pts

    Conjoined Homunculus
    Talisman of Preservation
    Infernal Puppet
    Charmed Shield
    Lore of Shadow

    Hero-708-24.3%

    Exalted Hero 204pts

    Talisman of Endurance
    Stream of Corruption
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Halberd
    BSB

    Festus, the Leechlord 185pts

    Exalted Hero 194pts

    Sporific Musk
    Armor of Destiny
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Halberd

    Chaos Sorcerer 145pts

    Third Eye of Tzeentch
    Dispel Scroll
    Dragonhelm
    Death

    -This guy seems well worth his points considering what he'll be able to do. Stopping that big spell from going off is important, and possibly sniping a character worth double his points could be amazing

    Core-1197-38.6%

    Chaos Warriors 442pts *BSB and Sorcerer Lord Bunker*
    x22
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Shields
    Blasted Standard
    Full Command

    -the usual safety nest for the two most important characters in my list, I'm pretty confident it will stay as reliable as it always is

    Chaos Warriors 427pts *Hero and Festus Unit*
    x22
    Banner of Rage
    Halberds
    Shields
    Musician
    Standard Bearer

    -Festus will stay safe behind the exalted, and this unit will hopefully crush anything in it's wake

    Chaos Marauders 295pts *Death Sorcerer Bunker*
    x48
    Mark of Khorne
    Great Weapons
    Full Command

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Chaos Warhounds 30pts
    x5

    Special-270-9%

    Chaos Trolls 270pts
    x6

    Rare-355-13.7%

    Hellcannon 205pts

    Hellcannon 205pts

    3002pts

    I decided on the death sorcerer after all, I have a feeling he'll come in handy sometime during the tournament. I dropped the shrine in favor of another cannon. I know it's a character heavy list, but they're all decked out for a specific job, and I feel like I'll be prepared for almost anything, I'm hoping anyways
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    GOOD LUCK!!!!!!

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    just remember to keep festus out of combat, stick him in the far corner of the unit and try to make your charges keep him out.

    he has no armour and no ward save, so if you dont get regen he will die very easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noma View Post
    I've decided to go with this:

    Lord-380-12.7%

    Sorcerer Lord 380pts

    Talisman of Preservation
    Infernal Puppet
    Third Eye of Tzeentch
    Charmed Shield
    Lore of Shadow

    Hero-708-23.8%

    Exalted Hero 219pts

    Talisman of Endurance
    Obsidian Trinket
    Stream of Corruption
    Mark of Tzeentch
    Halberd
    BSB
    just 2 things that im supprised slipped past lord borak! the third eye of tzeentch is alittle wasted on the lord. it would go fantastically on your death sorcerer tho.
    second thing! the bsb is illegal, hes still got 2 magic talisman. the ToEndurance and the obsidian. if hes gonna be bunkered up, maybe concider a collar of khorne? i feel its usualy enough protection for him, and the extra magic res for his whole unit will be great. also it leaves him another 25 points for other magic items... maybe that HoME that you were looking at? that kinda thing might be enough to give him the edge to win a combat outright and save him from needing the 1 better ward save!

    oh! btw i love the dragonhelm on the chaos sorcerer, or anyone for that matter. with lore of fire and lore of metal both being so scary, counting as flaming attacks, and often used against WoC, its a great piece for any army.

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