Archaon, The Everchosen

[AshBorn]

Ok guys tell me what you think! I wanted to make a competitive list that includes our most expensive, and coolest model! I'm having him commissioned so I better have a list to go with him! Hard to be competitive with him as a point sink, but here is my best shot! Check it out -

Lords -

Archaon - XXX

Heroes -

Chaos Sorcerer - 200
Level 2
Mark of Tzeentch
Infernal Puppet
Third Eye of Tzeentch
Iron Cursed Icon
**Goes with the Tzeentch warrior unit.

Exalted Hero - 218
Talisman of Preservation
Mark of Tzeentch
Great Weapon
Disc
Stream of Corruption
Shield
**With his protection, I really don't care that hes swinging last. In the last few games there have been some big baddies that a great weapon would have been nice against. Haven't really ever used one on an exalted, so giving it a shot. Also, with the disc and stream he will be great support for any unit that is trouble. Otherwise, he'll just be a flanker / warmachine hunter.

Core -

Chaos Warriors (6x3, 17 total) - 322
Shields
Mark of Tzeentch
**Sorc goes here. Full command here so the Champ can protect the Sorc, and this unit can protect the Victory Points of a Standard a little better than the Halberd Warriors, plus they won't put out as much heat as them so they'll need the extra CR. Icon from the Sorc will provide a little protection as they cross the field. Then of course they still have their 3+ armour saves.

Chaos Warriors (6x3, 18 total) - 336
Mark of Khorne
Halberds
Shields
**A lot of heat from this unit. They have a little protection from their armour, but not much else. I'll have to be careful with these guys. No points for command upgrades..

Chaos Marauders (10x4, 40 total) - 238
Great Weapons
Mark of Khorne
**This unit will most definitely be shot at. But for such a cheap cost per model, bring it on! If not, theyll hit hard! Can't leave home without a 40 man Strength 5 238 point unit!

Special -

Chaos Knights (7x2, 12 total) - 590
Mark of Tzeentch
Full Command
Blasted Standard
**This is Archaon's unit. Since he takes up a frontage of two knights, this makes a 14 man sized unit. With his MR, the Blast Standard and Mark of Tzeentch, this unit is not going anywhere until it sees combat. With such a point sink in Archaon, I need to make sure he gets into battle with enough of a unit left so he can start to earn his points back. This is the real cheese of my list.

Rare -

Hellcannon - XXX
Hellcannon - XXX
**Cuz I like em.

TOTAL - 2994

What ya guys think? I have decent magic with third eye and MoT on my sorc and Archaon has a back up Sorc as well.

Thanks!

[Marnepup]

The bsb doesn't fit. The way he's set up, he's a lone ranger , but his BSB status is a liability, not a help, if he does his hunting job. If you want a BSB, put him on foot in a unit, and find a use (command!) for the points spent on the disc. If you want a lone ranger, drop BSB status and spend those points on command.

[AshBorn]

Good call. I figured a mobile BSB would be helpful, but thats a lot of victory points for one lone ranger to protect. Added full command to the shield guys. That unit definitely needs a champ with the sorcerer in there. Also, an extra combat resolution wouldn't hurt since they won't be hitting as hard as the other unit.

What do you think of the dual Tzeentch casters? I wanted Tzeentch on the Sorcerer so he could cast as a level 3.. I play a lot of magic heavy armies and it seems I just need that little extra edge to be able to compete at all. With 4 spells total between the two, I should be able to get some decent spells.

Comments on anything else? Thanks!

**Btw, the Disc Exalted is because I got that Chaos Lord on the Tzeentch disc and hes painted so damn good, I just love to field him lol.

[bliss-giver]

I personally wouldn't take dual tzeentch casters, you will get the good spells this way, but I wonder if a different lore like death, nurgle or even slaanesh (I ignored fire as you'd be better off with Tzeentch in this case to get the good spells), this could provide some variety.
Otherwise the list looks pretty good although the marauders may benefit from some more men if the points arise. I'd love to see your opponents face when that knight bus hits home. Tell us how the games go.

[sdefreit]

Do you think shaving the knights to 10 (6x2 with Archaon) strong would really lower their effectiveness? I just think a 7 frontage is very clunky. Plus you can probably beef up a lot of things with the saved points.

[AshBorn]

Ok so I shaved the knights to 10, with Archaon. Next I swapped my Sorcerer to Shadow, which freed up some points. I then added some marauders, which gave me a 60 man horde.

That puts it right around 2999.

How's that seem? Thanks for all your input guys!

(Not set on Shadow by any means, just popped it in there. I may swap it.. Gotta read through all the spells again. Maybe death etc. Probably not Slaanesh though! )

[bliss-giver]

Did you say Shadow or Slaanesh for your sorc, as he can't have shadow. But having re-looked at slaanesh, it could actually wor fairly well as a lore until you hit ITP, at which point you can role out your 3rd eye.

[AshBorn]

Oh yep can't do shadow duh.

The only reason I wouldnt do Slaanesh is because then I'd have to take marauders to pay for the points. Ive never even actually used the Lore before haha.