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    [2000] Deamonic Legion - Nurgle

    Hey guys, after my last 2 hall of heroes, I've realised that in my overall scores I was fairing better than expexted (2 2nd best generals, 2nd and 3rd overalls) but I suffered in the army compostion and honor, as most of my opponnents don't like the slayer army, and find that no matter what you do with them, it's cheese.

    This is not the case of all the players, but this as lead me to choosing a new tournament army, one that requires alot of skill and is alot original. SO this is why I am concidering the deamonic nurgle army ^_^


    Lords & Heroes

    Daemon Prince 560 pts
    Mark Of Nurgle
    Lv 4 Wizard
    Diabolical Splendour, Stream Of Corruption

    Exalted Deamon 390 pts
    Mark Of Nurgle
    Lv 2 Wizard
    Rediance Of Dark Glory


    Core

    16 Plague Bearers 341 pts
    Full Command
    Unholy Icon

    16 plague Bearers 291 pts
    Full Command

    3 Nuglings 180 pts


    Special

    3 Plague Riders

    41 models

    1982 pts

    IS 2 deamons too much or too cheesy?

    Best Regards,
    Wolf_Pack

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    Why posting this in BoC instead of HoC?

    Anyway, I haven't got much experience with Deamon armies, but you might want to slim down your characters a bit.
    Then get more Nurglings, unbreakable units in such a small army is always nice.


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    Hoops! I'll ask a mod to move it.

    Yeah I have a big problem with caracters, as they are very expensive and I still need some magic protection.
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    Id say drop the exalted daemon. Not quite sure, but I think that the ward save in daemonic legions still apply against spells, so that should protect you somewhat. Then kit out the daemon prince with anti magic stuff. Oh, and nurglings arent unbreakable... they suffer from daemonic instability just like everyone else, so I dont think they're that good really.... But thats up to you!

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    Good point there, but should I drop the exalted deamon for an herald with the greater Icon and spell breaker?

    How to properly kit a prince for anti magic? I would think of making him lv3 for 2 DD, and spellbreaker, since he won't cast of anything without the exalted deamon's 2 lv of magic.

    another unit of plague bearers for the nurglings?

    How about this:


    Lords & Heroes

    Daemon Prince 465 pts
    Mark Of Nurgle, Lv1 wizard
    Spell Breaker, Diabolical Splendour, Stream Of Corruption

    Herald of Nurgle 260 pts
    Mark Of Nurgle
    Spell Breaker, Greater Icon Of Chaos, Nurgle Plague Beast


    Core

    20 Plague Bearers 405 pts
    Full Command
    Unholy Icon

    20 Plague Bearers 355 pts
    Full Command

    15 Plague Bearers 274 pts
    Full Command


    Special

    3 Plague Riders 240 pts

    Models 61

    Total 2000

    Any better? I got about 12 more models in this one, and some more magical resistance with the 2 spell breakers and lv1 prince.

    The Herald will go with any of the 2 units of 20 plague bearers, and the Prince will go stream warmachine crews or simply kill them in combat, same for lone mages untill it's time for him to flank rear charge.
    Last edited by Wolf_Pack; June 14th, 2005 at 01:16.
    Best Regards,
    Wolf_Pack

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    I thought the Nurglings were an unbreakable swarm. Then what do they do what Plaguebearers don't?

    Can you take Furies in this army? Their speed might be usefull.


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    I wish I could, but they are 0-1 per undivided caracter in the army.

    I doesn't say unbreakable, and they have Ld9, as unbreakable units always have 10 (asides for undead)

    Are my hero choices better? and I droped the chariot, maybe I should have kept it?
    Best Regards,
    Wolf_Pack

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    Some of the changes you made seemed to have made the list weaker, rather then stronger. Your original list had a larger selection of troops and abilities. Here's what I think the list needs:

    1) The characters. To many points still invested in them. They are good units and all, but they won't win the game for you. On the contrary, because so many points are held up in them and they aren't that great overall, they'll probably end up losing it for you. So, I'd go for 2 hero level choices instead, cheaper while retaining cc prowess.

    2) Nurglings, these guys are almost compulsary in all Nurgle lists, even more so in a daemonic legion. They make excelant flankers able to hold up entire unit for turns, and with the daemonic legions extra abilities, they become so much better. Since this list is limited, and the greatest weakness for your units is losing rank bonus's increasing their instability test roll, so the little blighters help immensely.

    3) The 2 units of Plaguebearers are ok. Nice unit size, they should do well with protected flanks.

    4) I like the 3 Plague Riders, these guys make the list that much more characterful, increasing their usefulness because they act as a flank charger and deterant for enemy charges.

    5) You should probably try and get in some other unit types for added diversity. Probably something like a plague chariot for added hitting power, and a realy cool centrepiece.

    Cheers, Taint





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    Your comments are always useful taint, thanks once more.

    As for the DP, I could swap him for an Exatled deamon, and perhaps put the herald on a chariot?

    I'll try to get back the nurglings, I'll drop the 15 strong unit of plague bearers, and should save up some points on the DP siwtch.

    Here it is:

    Exalted Deamon 355 pts
    Lv1 Wizard
    Diabolical Splendour, Spell Breaker

    Herald Of Nurgle 390 pts
    Greater Icon Of Chaos
    Spell Breaker
    Chariot Of Nurgle w/ 2 Beast Of Nurgle


    Core

    20 Plague Bearers 405 pts
    Full Command
    Unholy Icon

    20 Plague Bearers 355 pts
    Full Command

    3 Nurglings 120 pts

    3 Nurglings 120 pts


    Special

    3 Plagueriders 240 pts

    Is this any better ? I think I don't loose any models technically, as I have about the same amout of wounds, if not more. Thanks again ^_^
    Best Regards,
    Wolf_Pack

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    Much better Wold_Pack, that's more like the list I was talking about. You've maintained strong characters, still got a good unit base, got some good flanking units to hold charges and annoy, and maintained the plague rider's for a cool conversion and hitting punch along side your plague bearer blocks. I'm liking this list a lot more then the others, you have actually improved the list even though you dropped a unit block, because the nurglings are a vital part of a list like this. I like the revised characters as well, they still look to be effective, and are cheaper now as well. Good job,
    Taint





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