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heres my final edit
L - CHAOS LORD - 377
-MoK, chaos steed, shield, chaos rune sword, gaze of the gods *accompanies knights*
C - 5x CHOSEn KNIGHTS - 270
H - EXHAULTED CHAMPION - 139
-MoK, Great Weapon, chaos armour *accompanies warriors*
C - CHARIOT OF KHORNE - 150 ---extra dispel dice i think is handy anyway-----
C - 15x CHAOS WARRIORS - 286
-MoK, S/M, Shields
S - 20x BEASTHERD - 145
-S/M/C, 10x gors
S - 15x BLOODLETTERS - 261
C - 5x MARAUDER HORSEMEN -106
-flails, musician, throwong axes
R+R - HELLCANNON - 270
TOTAL - 1999
so there you go. this is the best edit i can get together withoutplay testing the army. thanks for all the help.
Last edited by timk1111; April 21st, 2006 at 01:13.
I'm not even going to argue about the daemonsword. Your general will probably die by the end of the game unless he doesn't see much combat, but it's much less of a 'violation', and it's okay as long as you know it's coming.
If you're looking for some points, I'd suggest taking chosen off the knights. Know I can tell you're a chaos elitist, and you like your units small but really strong. However, it's worth noting that Chaos Knights should be able to break your opponent's flanks chosen or not, especially with your lord's help.
Taking it off would give you 60, enough to buy 3 warriors, a musician for the Marauder Horsemen (it's definitely worth taking), and with your left-over point, a Musician for the Knights (might as well).
with the daemon sword, i gave him the enchanted shield so that he had a 0+ armour save. this way, when he gets hit, at least he has a 4+ save.
good call about the chosen. it just i love em SOOOOOOOO much, and everyone is terrified of them.
thanks again, tim
with the exclusion of a few 20 point champions, i got the unit strength up for the warriors.
i've just edited the original post.
check it out. i think it pretty sweet.
You need marauders.
i had them originaly, but i like beastmen better. plus they're cheaper. so, in my list, beastmen cout as my marauders (bar the horsemen)
also, this comment isn't very helpful. please give more detailOriginally Posted by WithViolence
im going to have to agree with "withviolence" i mean you need more maraurders i have nothing to back up my suggestion, i just think you need them i mean, seriously, those chaos knights suck, take them out and put some maraurders in on foot, they'll go really good.
Yeah I'm not a huge fan of the daemon sword. A beefy lord like that needs some form of ward save, else missle file can rip him apart.
I have no problem with chosen knights. The MoK will make them a bit hard to control, but they're tough, and they will kill just about anything then get near.
Alright, I got some issues with your Exalted champ. Characters mounted in chariots are nice, but the MoK on a chariot is never a good idea. A sneaky opponent will wreck that thing in some terrain.
Can you give bloodletters full command in a non-daemonic legion list?
The beastherd is good, they are a great screen, but I wouldn't recommend giving them a standard. They are nice and cheap at 125 points, but if they get broken by the enemy, they turn into 225 victory points for him. Only take standards on units that you know will be seeing combat, and have no chance of losing.
The Banner of Rage is pretty snazzy on a unit of warriors. I'd recommend it if you can get points in there somewhere.
Once again, the marauder horsies shouldn't have a standard. If they lose in combat they turn into double points for your opponent.
I ain't a fan of the hellcannon, but it's personal preference whether or not to include one.
Overall I see your army having issues in battle. Your warrior squad if fairly slow compared to the rest of your army, and they might not see combat. The worst case scenario I see this list encountering is the following:
The fast units in your list move up rapidly, leaving the rest of your list a bit too far behind to support. They then get smashed up by combined charges.
Make some changes and we'll keep contributing.
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Bloodletters are the only daemons who get the command non-legion.
Beastherd can't replace marauders. They have no static combat resolution. Marauders are there to help you get +3 for ranks and +1 for a standard, often outnumber too. They can make excellent light infantry, and I'd recommend them.