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I've been reading some pages of the "Hordes of chaos army lists" and I have found that near nobody plays a daemon army (this is, with a daemon general).
Is this because people believe they are weak? Is this because they are expensive (money)?
I personaly love the daemons (not the instability rule, but well... they can't be perfect) and don't understand this situation...
Well, you already mentioned their main downside: their demonic instability.
Even if you only lose combat by a measly point, once you roll over the required leadership they just make *poof* and gone is your whole unit of rather expensive infantry (well, flesh hounds and mounted daemonettes ain't really cheap either)
Especially in games below 2000 points where lords can't be fielded (thus being restricted to ld your daemons will just disappear in 27% of all lost combat rounds (even if they stay they're likely to suffer additional casualties unless your dice roll really well)
Due to that, they mainly serve as support units in most armies. You don't wanna risk a unit of 250 points or more to just vanish (unless you're a risk-loving gambler like myself ) by a stroke of bad dice rolls:
I once lost a unit of 18 horrors and an exalted tzeentch daemon exactly due to their instability in turn 2 of a game (well, i managed to claw my way back from a decisive loss to a draw against my dwarven opponent in that battle but that's another story 8Y )
And for people believing that they are weak... well, apart from plaguebearers and screamers they do have only toughness 3 ...
Well, it's not really that they are weak, it's more like they're a bit difficult to use
It ain't easy bein' green... :-)
Yes, instability is a problem. Yes, they are expensive both points and money-wise. Their biggest downfall is that they crumble under any attack. T3 with a 5+ ward save? A regular chaos warrior is cheaper or same cost, has t4 and has a 3+ save (with a shield). If someone is fielding a unit with great weapons that is still going to be a 5+ armor save, unless they are s4 to start. So unless someone has ludicrously high strength or is firing a war machine the standard warrior is going to live longer. Also, unless you are playing the deamonic legion the ward save doesn't protect against magic. Deamon units for the most part can't have a standard, which puts them even farther behind normal units for determining who wins in combat, making them more likely to take instability tests. The fact that they cause fear doesn't really make up for all this. The only way that you could field an all deamon army is if you were playing deamonic legion, and then the units are so expensive and just as weak, but they do hit really really hard. You will win big or you will lose big.
Sorry for a noob question, but...
Where are the rules for a daemonic legion??
Edit: Nevermind... I foud them in the storm of chaos book
Last edited by Zinch; September 3rd, 2007 at 09:58.