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Outside of taking a dragon, does anyone take a Chaos Lord anymore? I could see maybe for fluff reasons, but the Exaulted Champion is nearly as good as over 100 points cheaper, so it kind of makes taking him in a competitive list hard.
Last edited by Spector; July 17th, 2008 at 05:38.
Well, the main reason for me not taking a Lord is that i dont actually have a Mortal army!
But, aside from that minor fact, i wouldn't use one if i had the opportunity, as you said Spec, the cost is ridiculous.
(Lol, was gonna edit this post, but then thought id leave it, how many commas do you want in one sentence!? )
There are reasons many and varied, but top of the list for me is:
The extra point of Leadership is what stops everyone from cheesing it at the first sign of trouble.
Second comes the increased magic item allowance which allows you to combine many potent effects.
Third, that extra killyness is handy against other people's insanely hard lords. We have the most insanely hard insanely hard lord, this is something we should capitalise upon, not scorn.
Fourth. It's a Chaos Lord. People brick it when they hear those two words. Play on the fear factor. Only Vampires, Daemons and Dragon riding peeps can consider taking him on.
Yes, I know it's a far cry from the Tzeentch Lords we used to chuck about, but they were wrong. Very wrong.
lol my current project is to get one to make my army 2000pts of cheese!!!
a chaos lord of slannesh on dragon (hard as) but i will have to drop one of my other heros (who cares...)
back on track i would take a lord for ld9 (in the 7 WoC games i have played running away plays a big factor and i play slannesh!!) one question i want to ask is why demon princes are ld8 why? there like fearless but only ld8!!!
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I imagine that when a lord of chaos ascends to daemonhood,
he tends to be "a little more" self-oriented.
That's why he doesn't care anymore if his followers keep fleeing around.
He can do everything he wants on his own, and really believes he can.
Guess this is why chaos never breaks through the empire LOL
It's better, it's shiny, it's warped...it's Chaos.
to be honest i ust cant see the point in a chaos lord unless you have gone marauder heavy, i mean if your slaanesh/khorne heavy your not even going to be taking that many leadership tests in the first place, while a chaos does give you access to a better slection of magic items im more than happy with a exalted champion with a great weapon (or flail if mounted) and armour of damnation/crown of everlasting conquest. T5 with either of those means your ant going to be taking that much damage anyways, you still have the high WS anyways so next to nothing hits you on a 3+ anyways.
I know there are oh so many arguments against doing so, but Chaos Lords have always been a BIG attraction in my book.
I just like the idea that my army is led by a bloke that is as hard is it is possible to get before he no longer counts as "alive" anymore. Yeah...
Besides, I have always had a special loathing for "points effectiveness" anyway. I want style...
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The Fear Factor of a Chaos Lord on Dragon will mean that your opponent may ignore him and go after the rest of your army (and lose his army to an angry dragon) or devote disproportionate numbers of his own troops to countr your dragon rider, and hence may well be less well-prepared for the rest of your army. I know that my own Star Dragon(s) are easily the scariest pieces in the field when I play them, and use it to dictate what my opponent will do.
chaos Lords are great. Sure they're expensive but you get the all important leadership, WS and initiative boosts. Plus even with armies that don't have much to fear from lead checks he's amazingly powerful. He may have the same strength and toughness of an Exalted champ but that extra fifty points of mag items means that you can fit him with a strong daemon weapon and and enchanted shield or one of the many other great chaos items. Plus it's just wrong to not include a lord just because you want points effectiveness, all of my large armylists include a lord just for the cool factor, after all a champ can only beso great before he's considered a lord.
Plus i hate daemon princes. I mean to me once they achieve aemonhood they aren't too cool because they've accomplished their goals. I prefer the mortals on the path to glory to the daemon princes that are just hanging around with mortals because the daemons pick on them.