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I play fantasy with my freinds on a regular basis and usually run an elite army of only warriors and knights. My freind however can not seem to beat it, he is the worst dice roller ive ever seen. So i was looking for a new theme for my chaos army, so that i dont lose my gaming partner, as well as having more of a challenge. It doesnt need to be all that effective on the table, im looking more towards an army that looks good and is fun to paint and model. Any ideas would be great.
I find this strange as traditionally, warriors and knights only isn't a very strong build. Perhaps your oppo needs help, rather than your force to be slowed down.
If you want an alternative theme, try bulking up with marauders. No, wait, crap, that'll make it better. There's not a lot I can suggest to make an all warrior army less effective.
(NB: Sorry if this sounds like I'm slagging off your army, it genuinely isn't meant that way.)
That bloke above me has it right. Post a couple of lists and we can all give you conflicting advice.
Perhaps suggest to your oppo that he could outnumber and flank your small and not very numerous warriors and knights. Perhaps march block and pound them with artillery. Much of it depends on his army (again)
Last edited by Seth-Ra the Everliving; August 30th, 2008 at 23:38.
Well my opponent usually runs an empire army that uses mostly handgunners and artilery, with little to no combat. And because he roles really bad he usually cant hit my guys with his handguns, so i get into combat with still a reasonable sized force and butcher him in combat. He despises the movement phase, or at least thats what i say about him. I usually run 3-4 regiments of warriors with sheilds an exalted champion either with mark of slaanesh on the steed(just becauseit looks so cool) and a unit of 4-5 chosen knights. he should technically beat me every time but he just cant. And hes getting very frustrated with the whole game, and i dont want to lose my only gaming partner. so i guess im just kinda looking for a new spin, like what themes do other chaos lords out there use. Im pretty much down with any god except for nurgle just because i cant deal with huge pus bellies
Good shooting armies are not pure shooty death. They rely on ranged firepower as a means to soften up the enemy so that by the time you reach his lines your regiments are stripped of numbers and thus rank bonus and can be easily defeated by his own regiments.
What your oppo needs to do (IMHO) is replace some of the ranged elements of his force with light cavalry (pistoliers/outriders). These guys can speed around past your lines and marchblock, slowing you down and giving him more time to shoot. He also needs to include some combat or countercharge units. Perhaps if he puts his general or BSB in one of the archer units and gives it some ranks, then puts it slightly in front of the rest of his army he can maneuvre it to ensure it gets charged, hold out for one turn, then get a flank charge with some knights. Otherwise he could include a fully ranked unit of flagellants or any large ranked infantry regiment.
He might even get some success with empire wizards, perhaps using Grey Magic (that's the lore of shadows to you young whippersnappers) to disrupt your advance.
If all that fails, tell him to buy a couple of steam tanks and take the easy option.
nooooooooooooo not more steam tanks!!!! my opponent who used one has now changed his list as he said he was bored of winning!
same happened yesterday an ogre player was bored of mashing the whole stores armys (our store is mostly elves) he fielded 3 butchers a tyrant 2 6 man iron-gut units and 2 6 man bull units at 2000pts.
only thing i can say is get some obvious targets for your opponent to fire at mabee he wil kill them???
giants are good at this...
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