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Ok, I did a Series of threads about Chaos Space Marines versus various armies in 40k. I feel with the new WoC update here in Fantasy, this is a good time to make one for WoC here in fantasy. This thread will feature anything involving the new WoC versus the recently updated Dark Elves. Tactics, opinions, discussing any battles you have had. This would all be welcome in this thread.
If a Million Guardsmen die, that's a statistic. If one marine dies, that's a tragedy.
Played against DE in a tourny today that had a river going across the middle of the map. I literally couldn't get my army to his shooting. Luckily he had to go to the middle to get battle points, so after his shooting killed everything I had, I finally got into combat with my last unit. 16 Warriors with shields, BSB on daemonic mount, lvl2 nurgle sorc and my lord of a steed.
Reason they all were in that unit was because as my other uints were getting made into dead porcipines, my heroes would jump units. Anyways, he charged my front with a unit of blackguard who always strike first and a unit of spearmen. Let me tell you, 2+ armor save on a model that has WS5 str4 2 attacks is just wrong. My unit wasn't being wounded at all and his guys where just falling over left and right. My Lord killed his lord turn 1 and his hero on a chariot turn 2 and my BSB threw all his attacks on his BSB and it died. After all was said and done, he threw 20 spearmen, maybe 18 blackguard, his lord and BSB and a chariot with a hero at this little unit. He had 15 spearmen left because they fled out of range and I lost my mage and halfed my lord and maybe killed 4 warriors.
Turned a massacred into a draw, well it should have, except top of turn 6 my unit was left alone in the middle(it actually killed too fast) He shot the unit enough to force a panic. Rerollable 9s. What are the odds of failing that? I rolled a 10 and an 11 and flee. Bottom of turn 6, my close to 800 points of heroes and standards needs a 9 or 10 to rally, can't remember if I had a musician left alive. I rolled a 12. GG no models left on the board. I needed to roll 1 nine out of 3 rolls and didn't to lose my BSB, Lord, a captured standard and around 200 points for the already halved unit.
I think he was throwing somewhere between 80 and 90 bolts at me a turn. My giant got 4 wounds om him before I could even move him. It was the perfect scenario set up for a shooty army to just absolutely massacre a slow combat heavy army.
Looking at this and from what I already know about Dark Elves they can be deadly with shooting so ways WoC can deal with that are by giving units nurgle so they take less hits or slaanesh so they don't care. Especially marauders as they will go down quickly and will most likely be taking lots of panic tests, even with a re-roll you're bound to fail some so for a cheap upgrade slaanesh will be priceless against Dark Elf shooting, not to mention the fear causing cold one knights and chariots and terror causing hydras.
BEN DIESEL FTW!!!
The blackguard didn't so much bounce off of my warriors as they ran into a lawn mower and just fell over. Stubborn on a 9, he stayed till I killed the very last model.
I had nurgle on my knights, but in the end they only have one wound each and enough shooting will kill them.