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I'm planning on a Khorne & Slaanesh mixed army with the cheaper units like Marauders with MoS and Knights and combat Characters with MoK. Now I'm deffinatly taking 5 Knights with MoK and having a mounted Khorne Lord, but the issue I am having is with the Lords Mount.
Now I love the new Juggernaught Khorne model and want it in my army but Im woundering if maybe it would be just too big (adding the equivalent of two cavalry bases width) to a frenzied unit already 5 models wide.
This would make manouvering more difficult, but also mean the line of sight for the unit is much wider and therefore more likely to be drawn away by frenzy. At the same time having my general alone on a unit strength 2 mount (so cannot take away ranks,) on a quite large base, whislt frenzied is somthing i dont quite want to risk to bolt throwers or other missiles.
Therefore, would a lord on jug in knights be advisable, or should i just go for a barded steed.
Then would an Exalted Hero work better on a jug? Not being the general means the risk off loss isnt such a great factor, but could still cause some problemms for my opponent.
Would love to hear some opinions on this problem i'm having.
If you really like the model - go for it, it's that simple . I think you'd be better off with an exalted hero though, much cheaper, and you don't really want or need a lord in a unit of frenzied khorne knights.
A build that works really well is this:
mark of khorne
juggernaut of khorne
he has near lordlike stats (6 attacks at S6 and WS8, 3 at WS5 and S5, so 9 extra attacks from him), a 0+ AS, and he isn't too costly.
Just be sure to screen the unit well with some hounds, and you're looking at 34 attacks from this unit alone . No need to manouvre a lot either, just run straight forward - this unit can even take on a fully ranked unit in the front on its own if need be.
Look at it this way, the unit's so damn scary you're bound to lose a couple of knights before you hit the enemy lines.
mount him on a jug, it's sick. I wouldn't worry about the shots coming at him, he's T5 (the lord) with a 0+ save. the only shooting his has to fear is from artillory which would be a waste on a single model (unless there nothing else to shoot or it scatered on to him. give him a word save and the rune sword or the axe of khorne and your set. I know this is a gift that can give him MR2 and a 4+ ward, but you can't take magic items. and i belive the jug only has two attacks arisen devil, but they could have given him a thrid attack since he doen't have killing blow.
I would go:
Chaos rune sword
and some type of ward
hope that help, and what armies do you normaly play against?
You don't have to make the unit 5 knights wide. You only get rank bonuses for each rank that is 5 wide... You may as well make the unit a total of four bases wide or even just three. Smaller frontage, but better maneuverability.
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Oddly enough Im having the exact same problem. I think the best thing to do is just go for it. After all, it is a sick model and this is just a game (I know!, right!) Im going to run him like this:
Sopoforic musk or Diabolic splendor
The thing to think is that my BSB also has the Doom banner (All people in sight of it are at -1 LD) So the point of this unit is to have that Doom totem in sight (if possible) and make the enemy take a fear test at -2 LD, then at the beginning every model has to take a LD test at -1 LD or do nothing, while I auto hit. If I don''t do the Diabolic splendor (-1LD on fear based tests) then I will just simply do sopoforic musk, which means fleeing units roll an extra d6 and take away the highest roll... which means they will be easily overrun. woot.
Any comments/ questions are helpful.
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OK, I honestly don't think this is as easy a choice as everyone ismaking it out to be, but I still think this is a good option.
I wouold say ExChampion over lord, mostly because a lord is likely you general, and I don't like the idea of my general not only being difiicult to control, but being faster than my other troops, in a unit with a small number of wonds and little static cr, etc. You clearly out for something to punch o hole in your opponents line, better to have it be less damaging if you roll something awful.
Now, worrying about the frenzy trouble from the unit is not a big issue, as if your smart you'll put some other fas/expendable ubit with it to charge first and stop it being pulled away after something useless.
I think the juggernaut is a good choice, solely because it you can actually make it extremely cost effective and still get a great killing machine. If your using a Exalted, the runesword isn't likely to be the best choice. The Jugger does give a better AS than the other mounts though, which means you get a +1 before without taking a shield. That's good enough in combat so that you don't need your shield, which means you can take a wonderfully cheap great weapons and still pull of 5 S7 attacks.
One less attack than a runesword, but you can kill an entire unit of TK cahriots alone. Since your mounted your likely to get a charge as well.
You also get MR(1) as well, which is good considering chaos knights are prime targest for lore of metal spells. Your unit is slower for the jugger though, so that's also a problem to consider. I would recommend this build
Armor of Damnation
Favor of the gods
You could swicth out the armor and favor for the crown of conquest if your concerned about cannon fire, but gnerally this will get the job done rather easily.
Also, consider giving the unit the blasted standard to compensate for the extra turn out of combat you might face from the lost speed.
Some good points there.
Depending on my lords build my ex hero will end up with either rune swrod or sword of might on jugger, probably with a ward or armour from somwhere.
Not sure what you mean by the "the unit is slower for the jugger" tho as the steed are barded making them M7 like the jugger. Also great weapons while mounted only give +1 S and not +2S, so i might aswell have a halberd instead if mounted so i can strike in Int order.
This is my exhalted champion's build:
-Mark of Khorne
-crown of everlasting
The crown comforts me as he will be my army general even at 2000points so I don't want him dying on me. What do you think would work better? The extra weapon or a halberd?