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I have been looking at different forums here and on other armies forums and just realized a possible promlem with creating a good army list
My question is whether or not its a good idea to make a foot slogger army of chaos warriors. They are without a doubt one of the strongest core units in the game with there amazing stat line but they only have M4.
Since they are reasonably slow it seems like opponents could easily avoid them or just throw at them what can beat them. Being slow also makes them easier to flank.
I was wondering if the chaos warriors and chosen had too much of a high point cost for how they can be easily avoided. Because of this I am debating if a full cavalry/warhound/chariot army would be more successful. Since Im still buying models to build up a 2k army I was debating on which direction to go.
What do you guys think?
A pure footslogger force would have some problems. Some could be overcome by using the mark of nurgle to get some additional protection from shooting.
As for other problems, such as being flanked and outmanuevered, it helps to not go pure footslogger and still have some units of Knights and/or Marauder Horsemen in order to take care of some of your opponents faster stuff.
So no, it probably isn't the best thing to try to make a pure footslogger list, likewise it also isn't always best to go pure cavalry. A good mix is always my preferred choice.
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Demandred is right. The only good footslogging army would be a Nurgle army since it would need protection from the shooting it would have to suffer in getting to the enemy. If you are interested doing so then you will need to consider investing in a unit of Ogres with greatweapons and a giant to provide you with a little bit of foot mounted speed.
It is possible to make a decent footslogger list but it is hard to use effectively as you would really need to guard those flanks.
Basically life sucks, there is only war and you're probably gonna get eaten by Tyranids, have fun.
Well I didn't mean an entire foot slogger army. I meant just using foot soldiers at all. Like my original idea was to use a base of foot soldiers and warshrine. I still will have a unit of horsemen, knights and 10-20 hounds but the rest is M4.
I just had the idea of using all fast models like cavalry, chariots, ect would be better than having all the M4 units.
Of course- a list that is balanced between Foot Sloggers and Cavalry is always going to be better, because it's more flexible tactically. The typical army is going to try to have a solid core of hard-as-nails infantry, with cavalry and hounds acting on the flanks.
However, there are two things to keep in mind, the first is quite simple:
1) you should generally never have more than a 2:1 ratio of Cavalry units in your army. Having too much cavalry leaves your force split. You don't want to relegate a full 50% of your army's front to just flanking duty. Nor do you want to send 50% of your army rushing off to fight against 100% of the enemy, because now you've just split your force into an army that's outnumbered 2 to 1.
If you want that much cavalry, go all Cav.
2) if you decide to go "all cav" or "all foot" without including ANY mixture at all, pick the all cav rout. It will always be stronger than an all foot army, because it will let you keep the initiative in the battle. Cavalry armies are smaller, and can't suffer casualties, which makes them very unforgiving to play. They also boast lower Static Combat Resolution, because they can't rely on Ranks or Outnumbering as often, which means that against really tough armies like Dwarves, you might find yourself in a bind. However, the Cavalry can usually outrun shooting, pick off mages, and choose which enemy it will fight on the field, because it is going to have the speed to maintain the initiative.
Obviously, Infantry, backed up with Cavalry, is a great army. But all-cav is the next best thing (coming from a former cavalry commander's unbiased opinion)
Ya the list I was initially looking at building towards had a good mix I think. Here is the link to it from the army list section.
http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...-revised.html# (New Player...2000pt list revised)
I think it is a good mix. Might drop some dogs for more horsemen. Still trying to perfect this list with little things here and there but think its a good base for at least getting the models. You liking the ratio here?
Look at my thread on the Briar Knights. That is how a footslogg army should look. I feel the single unit of knights should be the standard in most armies that aren't full cav. I give mine Rapturous Standard though.
Yes- that's the kind of ratio you'd want.
You've got Chosen infantry to hold the line, with Knights as a rough and ready Counter Charge.
The Marauders take care of your 'flanker/hunter/marchblocker" unit.
The hounds don't really count for anything, since they should only be deployed as a screen and not move much faster than your infantry.