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~Daemon Princes are US3, which would suggest 40mm base, but the new one looks to be on a 50mm base? Help?
Last edited by Quendi d'Jhaelian; May 29th, 2009 at 19:32.
There seem to be alot of base size problems with the new WoC book, including Throgg, Kholeck, Warshrine ect. At the moment mine is on a 50mm base as its the same size as the bloodthirsters and things which are around the same points cost (well almost), i think the 40mm base would be too small for the Deamon Prince and possibly even Throgg, but then i guess he would be expected to be run in units of trolls and so will be that base size. But in my opinion the Demonic Mounts base size is too big for a unit strength 2 model. It may just be a matter of use what you prefer til GW says on way or another.
Rules-wise there is no difference between a 40mm and 50 mm base. It's all about how the base fits with the rest of the army. If your army is mostly 25mm bases, larger things go on 50mm bases. If most of your army is on 20mm bases, the big things go on 40mm bases. This is so that if they join a unit they fit properly.
Beyond this, GW has not published any serious rules for bases that I have ever seen.
Last edited by Anarkitty; June 21st, 2009 at 23:05. Reason: Corrected typo
true, but wouldnt this make a big problem for close combat circumstances? Like how many other models from a unit will be able to attack it? In my opinion the demon prince should b a 50mm base size because of his point value... plus shouldnt he be bigger then a normal ogre?... GW should really address that, in tournaments your opponent(s) could do alot of complaining about potential base contact in CC situations...?
I agree, an unscrupulous player could use bases that were smaller or larger than they are supposed to be to game the system, and the rules as they are would let them.
You have something big but fragile? Put it on a 25mm base standing on one foot and fewer enemies can get it in base contact.
You have a combat monster character that's not mounted, maybe one that gets extra attacks from models being in base contact? There's nothing in the rules that says you can't put him on a 50mm base with a lot of extra decoration and bitz.
At this point, this is unsportsmanlike, but totally legal.
I agree with you, GW needs set base sizes. Possibly make them part of the stat line for each model or unit, or include them in the unit descriptions, but at the moment base sizes are totally arbitrary.
You can always voluntarily increase the base size of any model (generally done for modeling purposes, conversions, diorama bases, etc.) but can never decrease it below the standard size set by GW. I was under the impression that this was a hard and fast rule, and in my area it has been repeated several times.
I could be wrong about this rule being official, but in any case it's what everyone in my area uses and it seems logical, within reason (i.e. great eagle on a 150mm x 150mm base would be great, but quite a bit over the top IMO.)
Can't really compare point costs though. Look at the ogre hunter. Its on a 50mm.
I play on a 50mm, because it fits the rest of my army. I had a 40mm DP once, but it just looked wrong.
I would think that seeing as a Disc comes with a 50mm base, that surely a great and powerful Demon Prince would follow suit, however I would also think that being promoted to Demonhood would not cause you to lose a point of leadership...
Who knows, it is GW afterall...
I have always heard(and played) that you could base things bigger, but not smaller as well.
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No one said that the demonprince was a chaos lord before being risen. Could easily have been a chosen, or a chaos ogre for that matter. You could also argue, once you reached demonhood your not so worried about your fellow man, so you don't take as much effort to lead them.