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I was just looking through my WoC collection and to this day, one of my favorite models is Be'Lakor. This got me thinking, the Demon Prince of Tzeentch with Tendrils was rather powerful in 7th, but will the Demon Prince have a place in the 8th edition Warriors army? Personally I'll still field him for fun because I enjoy the look of a Demon Prince on the board. What do you guys think?
Personally I think Daemon Princes are a little expensive for what they bring to the field. They have no use as an army general as their Ld is no different from a Heroes and is worse than a Lords. Also, without being able to join units they tend to be shot to ribbons, Mark of Tzeentch or not! They can’t really fight in combat as their lack of Magic weapons or Armour makes them vulnerable to enemy characters and they don’t have the attacks or strength to fight ranked up units. Sure they can pick on war Machines but so can Chaos hounds.
So I see them as just some form of Chaos Sorcerer that’s around 200pts more expensive than a tricked out Sorcerer Lord…..and for what?
They do get a little boost now though with Stomp! An additional D6 str5 attacks at Init 1 looks pretty cool but I still don’t think they’re worth almost 600pts. Still.....by the time you’ve given your Prince 3 or 4 levels and then 100pts worth of gifts you’re looking at 520 – 600pts. You can get a Sorcerer Lord AND a combat Lord for those kind of points!!! They’d be better at their jobs too.
The gateway prince will still be around, with +5 to cast you can throw 3 or 4 dice and expect to get gatway off. Tendrils will be a must as you can re-roll those double 6s to prevent miscasting.
Other princes will be just as useful, having a higher toughness and more wounds then regular mages means you can survive most miscast results. Since most miscast damage also ignores armour saves the 5+ ward comes in real handy. You also have the advantage of not blowing up your own unit as he will be on his own, which is another bonus considering how bad it would be to lose a unit of chaos warriors or knights as well as your main caster to a miscast!
I wouldnt run one without another mage with the puppet, as dropping a 500pt model to a miscast is very bad. but on the up side you can afford to lose a couple of wounds as your opponent wont get any points unless you are completly dead.
The lore of Slaanesh took a slight hit, but seizures is still ace, especialy with everyone wanting bigger units. I don't think you could justify using it with the prince though as without it you wont be doing much at all.
Nurgle rocks solid as before, throwing regen on your big marauder unit is nice, and cure of the leaper is going to be a real headache for big units. The -1 BS for shooters will help lots as well, considering TLoS and firing in two ranks.
Tzeentch is also looking good, the only bad spell being transmogrification. Even call to glory gets a boost, and treason is going to be hilarious. The 4+ ward will also help a ton with miscasts and enemy shooting.
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If a demon prince is given a magic level, can he take the third eye?
Page 34 under 'Using Chaos Magic' defines any sorcerer as a wizard that follows the chaos gods. So even though the sentance below is refering to the regular sorcerer, I think its pretty clear that he can take sorcerer only gifts if he has magic levels. Unless this has been FAQ'd otherwise.
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I looked over the FAQ and didnt see anything about the demon prince being able to or not. He could be run with MoT, one power level, third eye, and bloodcurdling roar/fury of the blood god. That would turn out at 405 points. With the ability to reform after charges he could put on some serious hurt but Im not sure if he would be any better than a disc lord.
If only they had made a gift tha allowed daemon princes to take magic weapons/armour then my khorne legion could actually use its daemon prince
I tend to agree with Borak, the daemon prince dosnt bring anything to the table that the mortal characters, i think i would be more tempted to use a character on a dragon.
I personally think they are worse now. No guess range + can't join units means a cannon or two have a very good chance of making you kiss that 400+ point model goodbye
I'm going to actually be bringing a demon prince again. Purple Sun is one nasty spell and the rest of the Death Lore is ridiculously good. Gateway was too cheesy, but flying DP using death lore is slightly cheaper and much more resilient to 8th edition miscast table. I don't care about taking a few str10 hits, when I have 4 wounds and a ward save.
Drop that Big Purple Sun needing a 25+ and watch your opponent die. Just hope you don't miscast, but even then if you're flying behind their lines as long as the RiP gets into the game in their lines it'll be worth the 1/6 chance of losing the DP.
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