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Read that and explain to me why people are so dense these days
to be fair... some common sense here please. There is a category called monstrous cavalry. What are the frst few units you think that might come under that heading? That would be juggernaughts and rhinoxes. Its pretty simple. People get too tied up with the exact wording of sentences in an errata article to just use their own brain once in a while.
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To be fair, why would the he's SoA rule for ASF override the BRB rules for ASF but not the WoC rules for classifications not override the BRB rules, that in itself defies logic just as WoC characters on daemonic steeds suddenly becoming easy prey for cannon balls as the army actually has no daemonic cavalry for them to hide in.
Because SoA actually said "regardless of weapon used" and besides which, its a completely separate rule and unrelated to mounts of any kind. Why would GW nerf TK chariots and well, the whole Wood Elf army so bad? Who knows... some things are just casualties of the new edition.
Of course the Army Book says all those mounts are calvary. Monstrous Calvary did not exist at the time. It's an obviously outdated sentence, and not deleting it in the Errata was an oversight on GW's part sure, but trying to argue that they fall into the new Calvary troop type is a pretty far stretch. Juggs are MB's. Putting a character on an MB makes it Monstrous Calvary. Plain and simple.
That being said, if you wanna classify your guy as Calvary and give up stomp attacks (all ridden beasties lose their troop type) for a LoS and your local opponents are fine with it, go ahead. That's what the Most Important Rule is for. So both players can still have fun.
I take it everyone has forgotten the errata for MoK in the HoC book when 7th came out, does anyone remember how Khorne knights steeds didnt get frenzy because it made reference to a out dated rule? why was this again, because the AB overrides the BRB, i was forced into playing it this way until we got a new AB (like everyone else). I think alot of people make the assumption that when they did the WoC book that infact 8th ed wasnt even in production yet suddenly Khorne lost all its dispel dice, we had no proper wardsaves, and they actually mentioned juggers and the like as cavalry (unlike in the DoC book). Why did they even need to mention that daemonic mounts are treated as cavalry in 7th ed? what difference did it actually make?
The other train of thought when it comes to the BRB classing them as MB is that perhaps they just copy pasted the daemonic mounts other rather than write them all separatly, if it is indeed plausible that it was a oversight in the FAQ then the same can be said for the BRB, personally i cant see that GW would go and fix daemonic mounts in 7th and then break them again in 8th, what unit am i actually going to use a jugger in in which its not going to get a cannon ball in the face. If indeed they are MC i guess thats one model that has to collect dust for another edition while i whip out my lord/exalted on barded steed (again).
I see however you didnt get the point i was making with SoA, its juts a example of how AB overrides BRB as the rule book states and as GW have said in the Q&A
I don't have the Armybook in front of me, brother's got it, but answer me this.
Does it say Troop Type: Calvary? No... Troop Types did not exist. If it specifically said "These are Troop Type: Calvary" like SoA specifically says "regardless of weapon used" then you'd have a better argument.
Offhand references do not equate to 8th ed Troop Type.
And it needed to mention it for 7th ed because it made them US2, Lore of Beasts, Lances, etc.
Isn't it in the BRB with the list of trooptypes? Why would GW put there it's monstrous if they intended for the AB to override it to cavalry?
If GW intended juggers to be cavalry, then they would've put cavalry as trooptype in the BRB. Also I'd imagine a jugger more a monstrous mount than regular cavalry. It is merely an oversight, and rather small ramifications. Either stomp, or being hidden in a unit. Doesn't he still get a 4+ Look out sir roll?
That list in the back of the BRB with the troop types is there so you can start using that as a reference for what type of troop your units are. Trooptypes did not exist in 7th, so for half the stuff in there the Ab overrides it. By that logic that entire list is useless, as you should be looking into the armybook for it.
And isn't monstrous cavalry also a form of cavalry?
Once again... it does NOT say Troop Type: Calvary, or mention Troop Type anywhere on that page, or in that book, because it did not exist as a concept at the time.
Troop Type is not a generalization, abstractation, or rough idea. It is a specific rule, completely new to 8th. That's why it is double capitalized, just like "Always Strikes First", even in the FAQ, and pg 54 does not reference that specific rule at all, at any point.