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Ok, so at work today I had a brilliant Idea.
If a Model has the Mark of Nurgle, any model that targets him in close combat is at -1ws.
Since you cannot choose to "Not" fight (BRB pg 4 if you are in close combat with only models with the mark of Nurgle then you would be at -1 WS. as there would be no other target to choose.
If said nurgle unit was also Terror Causing (or fear) and your opponent fails, then they are reduced to WS1. If they were in base contact with you, then they are at an additional -1WS from the mark of Nurgle taking them to WS0.
as per the BRB they would be hit automatically in close combat, and not be able to attack back. (brb pg 4 "Characteristics of Zero")
what are your Thoughts on this?
That is correct, however they need to fail the fear test first, and that is quite rare. This is why MoN/Rage combo can be very effective on Chaos Knights.
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That's not strictly correct. The -1WS from MoN only applies when you are being attacked, not while attacking. Therefore the opponnent is WS0 while attacking (and hence cannot attack), but WS1 when you are attacking it (and hence not hit automatically).
MoN is well over-priced and got nerfed by the errata. Plus fear is as good as useless anyway as it only works once in a blue moon and most units who are a threat to chaos are immune to it. Not a combination to entertain any serious thoughts about to be honest.
nope this is not correct
BRB also says that you can not be reduced to WS0
the whole thing about WS0 are to do with things like attacking walls etc
pg 3: "All characteristics are rated on a scale FROM 0 to 10 - they cannot go below 0 or rise above 10"
hence they can be 0.
pg 4: "if any creature or object has a weapon skill of 0 then it is unable to defend itself in close combat, and any blows struck against it will therefore automatically hit."
@ChaosLordUK : what you say is true'ish. Im uncertain as to what point in combat you "target" your opponent. do you target your opponent only before you swing? or do you target your opponent at the start of combat? If there is only 1 viable target would you not "auto target" it? lots of questions, again it seems to be a cloudy area in the rules.
Im thinking of trying this with a Chosen unit. I will put my BSB with the doom totem and diabolic splendor in the unit.
That will be a fear test at -2 each fight, also if you take a death wizard you could doom and darkness your target right before you charge for a -5 ldr (total), and if you could get pandamonium in there as well even better.
Last edited by HellcannonsRcool; October 5th, 2011 at 01:56.
A shame you can't fit splendour on a BSB It would have to be a Lord.
I've done this trick to a unit of Ogres though. Chosen with Wailing banner and MoN. Chucked in a Chaos Lord with Splendour and suddenly Mr Iron Guts can't attack me! what SHAME!!!!! Hehehe.
The Chances involved in someone failing a Leadership test though is pretty slim. And if you take all the items to reduce their LD just for them to not be able to attack you...... Eh, it's points better spent else where.
ahh yer righ tsplendor is too many pts for a hero! ahh well, maybe ill try it out for fun sometime.
i think with doom totem and a few hellcannons and a death wizard could be fun.