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Im new member of Libraruim so i hope that this thread is in right place. Ok, now lets get to the point. I just started collecting WoC so i have a lot of questions. Both about playing and painting. Its not that i'm new just to WoC i'm new to whole Warhammer FB game. But i'm allready adiccted. I love it. Ok, here is my first question. I read a lot about WoC on internet and i found out that in latest eddition they made the rules so that you dont have to choose a specific god, if i understood it good? I was wandering if a full Khorne army is good now, with all that changes? Because i really like it. Khorne is my choice. Thanks for answers!
P.S Can i post pictures of my miniatures when i paint them here, in this thread? I'm new to painting too so i will need a lot of advices...
P.S.S I'm really sorry for my bad english, i hope that you get the point
Hey fellow follower. You should post pictures in this thread:http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...del-thread.htm or make a project thread Projects - Warhammer 40K Fantasy.
Dont feel nervous about being new to painting, everyone once was you will be better in no time. And full Khorne armies aren't really all that hot because they cant take mages. I actually wouldn't suggest it if you are a beginner. But you could take a mage without an mark and call him a Khorne priest and take Mark of Khorne on the other things. You can PM me with any questions about rules but I cant help you in the painting department. Have agood one.
Last edited by The Odor; January 9th, 2012 at 00:37.
Thank you very much. You dont know what you got yourself into. I will need a lot of help...
Welcome to the hobby and welcome to the RIGHT side.
First question - and, although it might sound like a silly question, there are plenty of people who would surprise you: do you have the rulebook and the Warriors of Chaos army book?
Second question: do you have somewhere to play?
If you have the rulebooks and somewhere to play, the absolute best thing for you to do is to start, say, a 500 point force and start building, painting and playing. Once you're getting the hang of things, you can start building up to a 1,000 point force and so on.
One of the nice things about Warriors of Chaos is their versatility. You can play an all-horde army, an elite close-combat army, an all-cavalry army, an all-monster army, a magic-heavy army, a magic-light army, a mixed army or one of several other options. Do you have any particular style in mind, or do any of the models or background stories particularly grab your fancy?
I hope we can help out and I you continue to enjoy the hobby!
Thank you very much. It is indeed the right side, i love those miniatures. They are very mighty!
I have those books, bought them. Both rulebook and Warriors of Chaos Army book.
So about my ideas for my army.. I would be really happy if i could make an elite close-combat army. Thats what i thought is the Khorne. Im not the magic kind of guy. I dont know if that is possible but that is something i have in mind.
I have one unit of Chaos Knights.
You can do a Full Khorne army and it's going to be exactly what you want. Pure combat Death. Magic can be fairly devastating so taking no mages at all leaves you at a disadvantage. You could take cheap mage with a Dispel Scroll to protect you from the worst or just take it on the chin. You can probably get away with no Sorcerers in low pt games (like 1000pts and less) but I'd strongly consider one for bigger games. Even if it's just to carry a Dispel Scroll.
As for the rest of your army. That's really is up to you as there are no 'wrong' choices when it comes to our army as pretty much everything is good and killy. Some things are better for the points but thats about it. The battle Force is good as it gives you a Solid core of lethal troops to expand from. Add a Character to this and the unit of Knights you already have and you'l easily have a 1000pt force.
Ok, grand. So your main units, then, are probably going to be Warriors of Chaos, Chosen and Chaos Knights. At a really small points level - particularly down around 500 points and possibly up until around 1,000 points - you would seriously struggle to fit your Knights into a balanced list, because they're so expensive - as are the Warriors themselves.
How about something involving your unit of Chaos Knights, a cheap Exalted Hero and spend the remaining points on Chaos Warriors?
You could do something along these lines:
- Favour of the Gods
11 Chaos Warriors
5 Chaos Knights
It's not the most competitive list ever built, but it gives you the elite close combat you asked for, that kind of all-heavy plate list that attracts a lot of people. And, best of all, you can buy yourself one box of Chaos Warriors and off you go. It's probably easiest to model your Warriors with shields instead of halberds, but use one of the Knight lances to build a single halberd-wielding Warrior and call him your Exalted Hero.
It's not a "Khorne" list, but putting together a list of Chaos Warriors at anything below about 1,000 points is seriously difficult. This list should let you get into the game pretty quickly, it gives you two units that are a bit different from each other, in that one is infantry and one is cavalry and it lets you get started as soon as possible without having to spend crazy money. Most importantly, it uses the models that you seem to want (correct me if I'm wrong about that. It's crucial that you use models and army lists you like!).
What do you think about that?
If you're 100% certain, however, that you will only ever be using full-plate armies, then there's no sense to buying the Battalion (unless you plan to sell on any of the left-over models afterwards... ).
A straight up Khorne army is (from what I have seen) only used by people going for straight up themed armies. If that's what you are trying to do then I'm sure we could give you plenty of options for blood splattering slash happy warriors!
If you are just looking for an army that can take a beating while dishing it out equally (eh what am I saying, we're Chaos, we dish out the pain HARDER ) then you are going to find yourself mixing up marks (which you can do this edition).
Some ideas for a khorne based super killy army:
-Mark of Khorne
-Full Command (if there is a character model in here, if not just stick with a Standard and Musician Combo)
Run these bad boys in groups of 30-50 models (preferance and point limit make those decisions) and watch them cut through units like a warm blade does to butter.
-Mark of Khorne
-Full Command (same as Marauders)
Units of 20 should be fine, or maybe even 15 if it's a smaller fight. 5 across the front is giving you a constant 20/21 attacks at str 5. Almost all infantry models will take a massive beating from these guys, but the points they cost makes deciding the unit size tough.
-Mark of Khorne
-Keep the ensorcelled weapons
Most people I see will run these as a unit of 5 with no bonuses other than MoK and go warmachine hunting or use them to cover flanks. It's a hard hitting unit, but be wary of those pesky cannons.
-Mark of Khorne
-Full Command (same as Marauders and Warriors)
An even harder hitting unit of warriors, though for the points difference to add these guys a lot of people will add more warriors in smaller fights.
The only issue I have had with a full on Frenzied army is the constant baiting from the enemy. Sure we can try and stop them from going nuts and charging everywhere with our leadership, but eventually something is gonna fail and your battle strategy goes awry.
For the "not so killy but very survivable" army try these changes:
-Don't change these guys. MoK with GW's is pretty much their bread and butter combo in any list.
-Mark of Tzeentch
-Full Command (only if character is in the unit, otherwise just grab a standard and musician)
You're looking at a unit with a 3+/6+ save against everthing and a 3+/5+ save in CC. And with their baseline stats they don't need help in the killing department (against most armies).
-Most people just run them as naked Khorne units when they are used but you can try...
-Mark of Tzeentch
-Blasted Standard (with the extra shooting ward they are less likely to die getting accross the table)
- Mark is by preferance i.m.o. but I always run them frenzied.
Anywayz that's my input. I have seen each of these unit set-up perform extremely well in most cases. You just need to make the decision of better saving throws or better hand to hand. Certain magic standards can also change your list composition as the standard may benefit the unit more than adding a mess of point for an upgrade (i.e. Razor Standard on the Warriors against high armored enemies such as Dwarves).
Hope this helped! Happy hunting
Warriors of Chaos > 3,000
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You guys are great!! You are all really helpfull. I understand you're advices, but in the end conclusion is that a Khorne army with all units given Mark of Khorne going to battle with no sorcerers is not a very good choice?