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Marauder Crossbowmen (ie. Crossbow option for Marauders on foot, +3 or +4 points)
What do you think would happen?
1. fear the Marauder/Hellcannon gunline!
2. relatively shooting-heavy lists with close combat elements
3. Sparing use: only some bowmen to handle minor threats, and that's it.
And what would you think of it, as an opponent:
1. Bring on the gunlines!
2. Not that bad a thing if they don't go overboard
3. I'm fine if they are used sparingly (approx. 1 unit/1000pts being played)
4. If the general public absolutely wants them, I can stand sparing use, but nothing moreÂ¨
5. Chaos doesn't need shooting! Now where's my flail/sword/axe?
And, what would you do if you were the Chaos player?
1. I'd make a SAD
2. Relatively shooting-heavy army with close combat elements
3. Sparing use is enemy-friendly (and healthy, since you won't get hanged from that)
4. *breaks bow, picks up axe/flail/sword*
If you didn't already guess, this is a poll
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Now, as to the matter at hand. Chaos are a close combat army, and having a single shooting troop would be pretty ineffective IMHO, therefore I would see them only being used in a few situations as counter units.
Now, as for the weapons themselves, something like the repeater cross bow the dark elves have cold be a chaos-type weapon, maybe with poison bolts
I think it would be cool. Though i would only use it to buy time for my knight to smash the enemy. The option would be very nice though. I think it would be very scary if you are a opponent no way are you going to like the adding of troops that can peg yuor guys while HtH guys are on there way to rip you apart.
I've always thought that some skirmishing Marauder archers would be good for chaos armies. Just one or two small units (like empire huntsmen) of 5-15 men might be quite useful. Also, horse archers like the kislevites use would be fitting with the background of marauder forces, since the non kislev tribes (i.e. the marauders) also use horse archers. I know chaos armies already have marauder horsemen, but throwing axes and javelins are no substitute for the range of shortbows.
I don't think big units of archers or crossbowmen are appropriate for chaos armies, they don't fit with the background and are not really the kind of troops that chaos forces need or should have.
"Peace, through superior firepower."
I've made a mildly shooty chaos army using a few friends models and a lot of DoW units. Braganza's Besiegers have always been available to Chaos players and at they are relatively cheap. You also have access to Pirazzo's lost legion (i'm working on a marauder conversion for these guys right now, but crossbows are EXPENSIVE no matter where you look for them , pikes are easy to make though ), Bronzino's Galloper Guns (CANNON!!!), Long Drong's pirate slayers, Marksmen of Miragliano, Oglah Kahn's Wolfboys (ugh orc shooting, but more fluffy since the orcs are just lookin' fer a fight).Originally Posted by Teron
Adding just a little bit of shooting to the army (i've used the marksmen in a few fights, besiegers and marksmen in a few fights and the galloper guns in a few fights). Makes Chaos a DANGEROUS, but fun army to fight or play.I'd have to say that they should be restricted if they did make a marauder shooting unit. Actually, i'd say, "Bring on the Pain" and still try to march my shooters across the board half the timeOriginally Posted by TeronI like my army as a CC army. But the addition of a few shooters would probably make it into my army in place of a unit of marauders. It's definitely a suprise to most players when they see a squad of crossbowmen placed in a chaos army.Originally Posted by Teron
If i wanted to shoot people, i'd play elves.... oh wait, i play them too (cav/CC elves )
I would like too be able to take 1 unit of archers that can skirmish as a core choice... i'd keep it small around 10 strong and use it regular. They could even give them frenzy or throwing axes... i'd still much appreciate it and be thankful. I hate using up rare slots.
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How can you guys call yourself chaos players? shooting is for girls, you should be bombing up the field to batter your opposition in the way the dark gods demand.
Disclaimer: this post was made with my tongue wedged firmly in my cheek
Helper monkey, bring me beer and donuts
Normally i'd agree. Shooting is for those pansy pointy-eared freaks.Originally Posted by Lurch
Charging forward unleashing unholy hell is the way to go... depending on your opponent. Where I play it's not uncommon to face an empire army w/ steam tank, hellblaster, pistoliers and cannons. Gotta kill somethin' once in a while.
Playing Chaos always reminds me of watching The Last Samurai.
You know the all for glory charge at the end? Makes me want the archers at the beginning (and yes i know they got shot too :rolleyes: )
I dunno, crossbows seem kinda too technical for primitive barbaric lunatics. Maybe I could accept bows, but its still way to unfluffy. Though they would probably suck, a throwing axes option for marauders on foot would be cool!!!
Damn that hellcannon... :mad:
There used to be archers in chaos armies, IIRC the warriors could have bows and there used to be a lovely unit called centaurs that came with bows.
But, in the current version of chaos I can't see there normal troops with crossbows/bows/etc.
What I could buy would be an allied unit of Chaos Dwarfs though equiped with range weapons.