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Old January 17th, 2006, 23:02   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, this is my first shot at a Sisters of Battle army list. It is a very mobile force with every unit having a movement distance of 12".

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Canoness
-Eviserator
-Inferno Pistol
-Jump Pack
-Cloak of St. Aspira
-Mantle of Ophelia
-Frag and Krak Grenades
=143

Troops

10 Battle Sisters
-Vet. Upgrade
-Flamer
-Heavy Flamer

Rhino
-Extra Armor
-Smoke Launchers
=200

10 Battle Sisters
-Vet. Upgrade
-Flamer
-Heavy Flamer

Rhino
-Extra Armor
-Smoke Launchers
=200

Fast Attack

6 Seraphim
-Vet. Upgrade
-2 Twin Hand Flamers
-Book of St. Lucius
=161

6 Seraphim
-Vet. Upgrade
-2 Twin Hand Flamers
-Book of St. Lucius
=161

Heavy Support

Exorcist
=135

Total = 1000
Models = 33 + 3 Tanks
Faith = 6

The Canoness is a dedicated tank hunter. The Rhinos rush up and unload Battle Sisters while the Seraphim intercept combats and use Hit and Run in the opponent's assualt phase to leave the enemy out in the open. So, how effective do you think this will be?

P.S. Does the Book confer unmodified leadership to the squad carrying it or only to friendly squads within 6"?


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Old January 18th, 2006, 10:30   #2 (permalink)
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Canoness
-Eviserator
-Inferno Pistol
-Jump Pack
-Cloak of St. Aspira
-Mantle of Ophelia
-Frag and Krak Grenades
=143
lose the eviscerator, take a blessed weapon, lose the krack grenades unless you need a points filler, I would be tempted to ditch the mantle and take littanies of faith and probably ditch the inferno pistol for a bolt pistol

Quote:
10 Battle Sisters
-Vet. Upgrade
-Flamer
-Heavy Flamer

Rhino
-Extra Armor
-Smoke Launchers
=200
take an imagifier, the squad is the minimum size, it needs help with faith

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10 Battle Sisters
-Vet. Upgrade
-Flamer
-Heavy Flamer

Rhino
-Extra Armor
-Smoke Launchers
=200
as above, I would be tempted to add a little weponry for the VSS in these squads

Quote:
Fast Attack

6 Seraphim
-Vet. Upgrade
-2 Twin Hand Flamers
-Book of St. Lucius
=161

6 Seraphim
-Vet. Upgrade
-2 Twin Hand Flamers
-Book of St. Lucius
=161
ditch the books, ditch the second squad and combine this into a 10 sister squad, give the superior an eviscerator

Quote:
Exorcist
=135
use points from dropping the second squad of serephim to take another exorcist if possible.

Cannoness does not make sense as a tank hunter, she can not engage on turn 1, rather use her for what she does best - HQ killer
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Old January 20th, 2006, 22:36   #3 (permalink)
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Yes the books do confer an unmodifed leadership but that leadership can be modified, For example:

-A cannoness will confer ld10 to another squad with 6"
-Say the squad lost combat and was out numbered 2:1 and below half strength
-That squad would use the ld10 minus 1 for being under half strength and minus 2 for being out numbered 2:1.
-So they will end up needing to pass a test with ld7

ps. I'm not sure about the outnumbered 2:1 atm, my braing can't get round it, soz if I got it wrong. But you get the jist.
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Yes the books do confer an unmodifed leadership but that leadership can be modified, For example:

-A cannoness will confer ld10 to another squad with 6"
-Say the squad lost combat and was out numbered 2:1 and below half strength
-That squad would use the ld10 minus 1 for being under half strength and minus 2 for being out numbered 2:1.
-So they will end up needing to pass a test with ld7

ps. I'm not sure about the outnumbered 2:1 atm, my braing can't get round it, soz if I got it wrong. But you get the jist.
You are wrong. The Book lets a squad use the bearer's UNMODIFIED Leadership value for a test. Unmodified means without modifications.

EDIT: And by that i say that the book is useful, and you should consider it in your squads
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Alright thanks, but my question was "does the Book confer unmodified leadership to the squad carrying it or only to friendly squads within 6"?
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yes unmodified, which means they can take the test with the book weilders leadership without changes, you still have to make the relavant modifications to the squad taking the test. All this does is act like the imperial gaurds "any units within 12" of the command squad may use the command squads leadership."

This is just to prevent confering a lower leadership, say if someone used "Divine pronouncment" psykic power on a cannoness with the book or something similar.

Note: for 5pts the way i do it is the most unbroken way for the cost. If it were something like 15ts i might agree. Think about it, for 5pts you can give nearby squads ld10 no changes, too good for 5pts.
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@Adepta_Sororitas: Heiromyo is correct, the BoSL works on the bearer, her attached squad, and any friendly squad nearby. It's the best piece of wargear in the game.

I hope you enjoy the list and I'd love to hear how it plays. Here's a few comments based on many years of playing Sisters:

HQ
1. I prefer Blessed Weapons to Eviscerators (I1 weapons are bad for ICs). If you go the BW route, then add Frags. If you stay with the Eviscerator, Frags won't help you.
2. Lose the Krak grenades and Inferno Pistol (a Canoness is best used against Infantry).

TROOPS
3. I find Transports death traps. When 4E came out, I had 2 Immolators and 4 Rhinos in my list. Now the only transports I use are Chimeras (for ISTs). Entangle really changed the game. I recommend no more than 2 units in transports.
4. I've also found that 2 Meltaguns are the best special weapons for SoB squads. I used to go the flamer/heavy flamer route, but I get much more utility out of meltas. I leave the DG flamers for my Seraphim.

FAST
5. If you are keeping your Canoness near your Seraphim, use her BoSL instead of putting one on the Sera VSS.
6. Consider a Brazier of Holy Flame for your Sera VSS. Three DG Flamers is better than two.
7. Max out your Seraphim squads, if you have the models. They are always my MVPs.
8. Even in my 1850pt army, I only take one large squad of Seraphim.

HEAVY
9. Every WH list should have at least 2 Exorcists. If you have 2 Exorcists, you don't need to use the Canoness as a tank hunter.
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