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I have been collecting my Vampire Counts for probably nearly 2 years and have quite a large force . I was looking through older issues of White Dwarf and the Wood Elf models and color schemes caught my eye . I read a little bit about the elves and really liked the army .
Before I buy the army book I just have a few questions regarding them ;
- Are they a competitive force , I haven't really seen or heard much about them in games . I like the idea of how they play protecting the forest etc , but I am unsure of how they play in game terms , can they be very good ? I think they seem to be a cross between magic/ shooting but more focused on combat ? ( probably wrong )
- Where would be a good place to start with the army
Those are my two main questions , my brother will be collecting either a Skaven army or a gobby army so hopefully there should be some fun games .
Any advice or tips that you could offer me would be great .
Yes, they are a competitive force. They require finesse and skill, more than most other armies. You will have a hard time adjusting to Wood Elves because VC's as just the opposite of them; you're changing from one of the slowest armies in the game to one of the quickest. Gaming-wise, don't expect a game-winning Magic phase, but they excel in shooting and in close combat, but there's a catch. You have to work your units together. One unit of Glade Guard firing at that Orc unit won't do much unless you panic it. However, if those Scouts chip in, you may get a good result.
Just yesterday I had a game against an O&G player. He took a large unit of Orc Big 'Uns with the Banner of Butchery. I almost had that unit with my Glade Riders, except that he called a Waagh! and got a head start on me. I fled through a unit of Dryads and he cut them down and overran into my fleeing glade Riders, who promptly ran off the board (he rolled an 11 for pursuit distance). In my turn, I fired a HoDA (Hail of Doom Arrow), and everything from a unit of Scouts and a unit of Glade Guard. THAT result panicked them, and they ran off the board.
Likewise, you need to fight multiple combats in which you have at least two units combating their one. That way, you will be able to win combats on a more regular basis. In the afore mentioned game, I used a Treeman for the first time. He took on a unit of Goblins who had flank charged him. He lost 3 combats in a row without breaking. Eventually he broke and ran into a unit of Goblins who would have had to take a Terror test (without their general) had he held. What I drew from that is that you must have support even for the big guys that almost never run. Had I a unit of Wild Riders (or similar) handy, I could have charged those Goblins and rolled up his flank, winning the game.
For your second question, start with the Army Book. that's always a great place to begin an army;Y. After that, you'll have to get the basic troops first. Start with 2 Core choices and a character. I'd recommend a box of Glade Guard and a box of Dryads to obtain balance. For your character, I personally would take a Noble of any persuasion. Once you've had a few games, work out what you need to improve your army. If it broke from the first combat, then perhaps a Treeman is the way to go. If you need more killing power, the Wardancers are a good choice here.
Well, if you read that, congrats to you. I hope you can draw assistance from this psot and that I didn't go on too long.
I agree with all that AFG said. I would like to throw in also that a great place to start on collecting WE is buying the Battalion. You save money and it provides you will a good number of troops to play with. Add a character and you can play small games already! Also, unless you are thinking of specifically going all trees or al Asrai, this box gives you units that most/all WE armies will use.
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I agree with the others.
Another big thing thats different between WE and VC is characters. WE tend to rely less on characters than VC. I sometimes field a Level 1 spellsinger as my only character and the army doesn't seem to suffer for it.
WE can be a hard army to come to terms with but the satisfaction of playing with it is unrivaled.
Thanks for your help guys . I will start getting the army book , went to my local hobby store yesterday and it was sold out , so will get that next week . I will probably try and get the battle force for xmas , and start getting a few smaller units with a character in the next few months for color schemes etc and as I have exams and vamps to paint up I won't have tons of time
tbh I wouldn't worry about it. Most of my Wood Elves are unpainted. I'm simply taking my time on them trying to paint them particularly well. Also I have no Black Spray paint, so everything has to be manual. They look fine, just as long as you've assembled them.
Just a heads up: The Wood Elves are made of the same plastic as the LOTR Riders of Rohan, and- believe me- they break very easily.
Thanks for the idea dude . Another reason for wanting to collect WE was that I could spend more time painting the units as there was less models Just gotta find a paint scheme
Last edited by eldrad 4000; September 23rd, 2007 at 14:07.
Yep. They break significantly easier than any of my other figures. It's very rigid which equates to them snapping under less pressure. I hate taking them places. I suppose a GW carry case would help, but they're so expensive. That's why I prefer my Dwarves and Empire.
Don't waste your money on GW carry cases.
I use egg cartons with some tissue paper and they fit perfectly into boxes that used to store A4 paper. Ten years and no breakages.
Cost = $0 which means I can spend more on models.