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Hey guys! im new on this forum, ive been reading through all your posts and they have kept me reading for hours!
Im aiming to make a 2kpt army. Ive just recently bought Wood Elf Battalion and I already have 8 Glade Guard, 15 Eternal Guard, 11 Waywatchers, 1, Great Eagle, 1 Noble on foot and 1 Highborn (either on a Dragon or horse).
So to count, thats:
32 Glade Guard
8 Glade Riders
15 Eternal Guard
1 Great Eagle
1 Lord (dragon or horse)
Can anyone advise me how to arrange these guys in terms of units. Like is 6 2x 6Dryads going to work? or should i keep it as 1 x 12. Should i stick with a greateagle, or should i invest in a treeman? Should i take champions in Glade Guard or Waywatcher Units? and do i have a viable army without the wallet shattering Wild Rider unit.
Oh also what items or Kindreds should i take with characters?
I cant wait to get anyones thoughts on my list so far, just spill your ideas out, I'll be so greatful!
Cheers! , Adam
My two biggest suggestions are to buy the army book and read the tactica.
Minimum unit size for dryads is 8. I'd buy another box so you can field 3 units of 8.
Great eagles are very nice, as are treemen. Neither is mandatory in a 2k list, but I'd say treemen are more commonly seen than eagles.
No, do not put champions in glade guard or waywatcher. In fact, you generally should not put a champion in ANY wood elf unit unless you will be putting a character in that unit. Also, don't put standards in shooty units.
Yes, you can have a viable army without Wild Riders, although I'd consider converting some from glade riders if the money is that big of a problem.
Items and Kindreds: there are numerous threads on this topic, just read the tactica really. What I will say is that the Alter kindred shows up quite frequently. Wardancer and wild rider kindreds are fairly popular but are more for flavor purposes than raw power. You rarely see people take waywatcher, eternal guard, or scout kindred as they aren't very good. Glamourweave kindred mostly shows up in Drycha armies.
Also, two other quick comments: you want at least 5 more eternal guard to make that unit viable, and dragons are relatively rarely taken at the 2k point level, although it can be done.
Great advice on the Dryads and Eternal Guard. Ill defo invest in more of them! Cany any1 give a justification for having a dragon in a 2000pt army? if you can id rly like to hear it cos i bloody love dragons!
My friend who plays Dark Elves always used a dragon in his 2000pt army and he always wins, but his Lord has REDICULOUS saves. 2+ward and an aditional save that is inversly proportional to the attackers strength... this totaly screws my Orc army over. But anyway, yes... any good advice for Dragon Lords in a 2k pt army?
Right, well the problem with the WE Dragon is that the lord simply can't protect himself like the DE lord can. I strongly recommend reading the WE tactica in the tactica section of the forum. It has a nice article on Dragons.
I think choosing a dragon at 2k is a little tight points wise. It really limits your other options. At 2250 you can squeeze one in. You will want more dryads, and if you are going to use eternal guard you will need 5 more or so. Then you will want to pick up some more characters. This is the one area where wood elves have lots of choices. You have the great weapon weilder, all the kindreds, a couple generic. Also a wizard or two is mandatory almost.
And don't neglect warhawk riders. They can be very useful is used well.
Welcome to the forest,
I am right 94% of the time, why worry about the other 3%.
I'd suggest against getting Warhawk Riders early on as they are very expensive compared to their points cost. Glade riders are a lot cheaper and fill a very similar role, and later on if you decide to replace them with WHR you can strip them and convert them into wild riders.
Another nice thing to note is that you can easily convert branchwraiths from the dryad box. If you are good with green stuff, you can also turn them into treekin!
Hey guys, thanks for the advice so far, even though its stuff ive read on other posts kinda, its really been usefull seeing it talked about specific to my army!
I went out to the shop today based on your advice and bought box of Glade Riders, i made 2 of them glade guard and converted 5-6 into Wild Riders! and i picked up a cheap treeman on ebay!
So here's what im looking at now:
3x10 Glade Guard
2x5 Glade Riders
5 Wild Riders
1 Alter noble with Great Wepon (Amber Pendant?)
1 Lord on Dragon (maybe with Bow of Loren and Arcane Bodkins?) - or - (maybe Spirit Sword to scare the hell out of the enemy Lords..no-one will want to play Russian Roulette with me, here i could also take Bow of Loren but no arcane bodkins)
This puts me on 2080pts so if im aiming for a 2250 Tournament army i could make 1or2 of the 4 (leftover) Dryads into a Branchwraith and try and bulk up my eternal guard with 5 converted plastic Highelf Spearmen.
How does this sound to you guys?
Thanks again for any advice and ideas!
Adam (man i love this army)
Last edited by AJ200; May 4th, 2009 at 00:14. Reason: Needed to add in Treeman
I think you still want more dryads. I'd probably run the alter noble as a standard alter (gw, light armor, shield, helm of the hunt, hail of doom arrow) unless you need the helm of the hunt for your lord.
Personally I'm not a fan of using Bow of Loren + Arcane Bodkins on a dragon lord because it creates negative synergy. You're either shooting and wasting the mount or in combat and wasting the magic items. That and you really need defense to keep him alive vs shooting (glamourweave is a nice item to consider). Also, I really wouldn't bother with Bow of Loren without Arcane Bodkins.
okay! now im thinking of this for my 2 characters:
Lord on Dragon: LA, Shield, Dawn Spear, Helm of the Hunt and fimbleWinter Shard
Noble Alter: GW, LA, Either Oaken Armour or HODA, with 20pts left
I like the dragon setup. Have used the dawnspear and shard with good success. The noble is good also. I like the armour. But HoDA is really good, so I would take it and get the briearsheath armour.
I am right 94% of the time, why worry about the other 3%.