WE vs 8th ed armies?

[AcesHigh]

Yes, I know that the Wood Elf army book is one of the two oldest books and suffers from this.

I was wondering what the other "old" book is? My guess would be Dwarves or Bretonnia, but I'm not sure, I've been away from the game a few years.

[AcesHigh]

Double post, my bad.

[ikbuh]

There are three books that are the oldest:

Brettonia - 2003
Wood Elves - 2005
Dwarfs - 2005

The second oldest set of books all came out in 2008 (WoC/Daemons/DE) or 2009 (Lizards/Rats)

[AcesHigh]

Wow, Bretonnia feels no love...almost a decade since a rules revision

[CaptainSarathai]

They didn't need one, and the Wood Elves and Brets were both written with 7th edition in mind despite their release towards the end of 6th.

The release was (iirc)
6th Edition
Brettonians
Dwarfs
Wood Elves

7th Edition
Empire
High Elves
Vampires
Dark Elves
Warriors
Daemons
(I think Lizardmen were in here somewhere too)

8th edition
Everything else.

[rothgar13]

Empire has to be included in the 8e set now, and Beastmen should be in 7e, though it was right at the tail end of it.

[Sidewinder]

Beastmen was the very last army book released before 8th edition and as you say right at the tail end of 7th ed. So, was Beastmen written with 8th ed in mind? I'm not very knowledgeable about Beastmen. Does it play like an 8th ed army?

Sidewinder

[rothgar13]

It sure does. We love our Hordes, we love our magic, and we love our chaff. I've found that most successful 8e armies pay attention to these 3 aspects, though obviously exceptions (notably Ogres, Warriors of Chaos, and Wood Elves) exist to the "Hordes" part.

[Polaria]

Woodelves aren't the most powerful book in the game right now, we've known that for a long time. They're not bad, but they're limited to just 1 build with little room to modify it for different situations.

Just out of general interest, with the motive of possibly starting a new army, what is that one build Wood Elves are limited to?

This means that some armies are always destined to rock Wood Elves, and unfortunately, some of those armies just got a re-up.

As before, what would those 'some armies' be? I pretty much know my gaming group and the armies there and one thing I don't want to start is an army that is destined to always lose...

[sirkently]

Just out of general interest, with the motive of possibly starting a new army, what is that one build Wood Elves are limited to?

We have glade guard for core, a bunch of treekin, maybe a treeman, and a weaver. Pepper with some eagles, and maybe a dryad unit, and a BSB.


As before, what would those 'some armies' be? I pretty much know my gaming group and the armies there and one thing I don't want to start is an army that is destined to always lose...

I would like to know that as well. I don't feel destined to lose against anyone, though it can be a struggle.

SirKently