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are they any good and yes i know this is in high elves and wood elves that is because theose are the armies i might play and i really want a dragon
The Dragons are pretty hot. In fact, they're really quite excellent, even for their points.
The main probably is that they can only be taken as a mount for a Lord--a Highborne, in fact (the combat-oriented Wood Elf Lord).
That means you can only play one in 2000+ points. If you're playing at less than 3000 points, you can only play one if you don't want to use a lord-quality spellcaster. Also, they cost 320 points in addition to your lord and they take up another hero slot. Now, they're better than any hero you can make. Like I said, they're probably even worth their 320 points. However, combined with the lord, they end up costing nearly six hundred points, total. With a well constructed lord, they'll be a nigh-unstoppable death machine: fast, murderous both in combat and at range, etc.--but that involves putting over a quarter of your points int one model which has some hefty draw-backs.
So, yes. The dragons are cool. However, they're tough to take in small games.
The look badass, too
The dragons are cool, but almost useless against bolt throwers. I had my dragon and twilight sisters killed by a bolt thrower in one turn...
i need to find something interesting to put here
Ok Scotty, jokes over... NOW BEAM UP MY CLOTHES!
That's the big drawback to most monsters. They have to be ridden, and they're very suceptible to artillery fire. Once in a while they might get beaten in close combat because of the magic five also.
the magic 5? what is that?
the +5CR almost all infantry will have against monsters, ogre units,cavlry, etc. Outnumbering(+1), 3 ranks (+3), and standard (+1). Its the main reason dragons can't just charge headlong itno a unit and expect to win. Most dragons and thier mounts are hard pressed to get 6 wounds without becoming obscenly expensive. I don't like dragons and other big mounts like it. Whenever I've proxied them, they were never able to pull their points.
you dont charge with dragons you give the riders a shooty magic weapon and just fly around units breathing on them and shooting them with your character
i didnt do it it was him 'onest boss
You can easily do both. If you give the Highborn the Helm of the Hunt, a Great Weapon, and Stone of the Crystal Mere (To avoid bolt-thrower, and Cannon Sniping hopefully for the first round or two), and you have a load of attacks coming in, and still have 50 points to spend on magic items. That's 10 Str 6 attacks on the charge (5 at WS8, 5 at WS6), so against just about anything, that's 10 attacks hitting on 3s, and wounding (more likely killing) on 2s. So, on average, you're going to kill 5-6 models on T4 or lower, 4+ save or worse troops. Add into the +2 from a rear charge bonus (if you can't get a rear charge with a flyer while the rest of your army is threatening them from the front of the battlefield, you or your opponent is doing something wrong), and you will most likely win just about any combat, even against the magic 5 units.Originally Posted by the horned rat
I'm not a big fan of having 500-600 points being tied up in anything, but, it's still a really powerful 500-600 points.
but to be effective in the shooting phase youreally need the bow of loren and arcane bodkins/starfire arrows
i didnt do it it was him 'onest boss
You can easily ditch the Helm of the Hunt to get the shooting combination off, and then you'll have enough points for the Bow of Loren combination to work, and still have 9 Str6 attacks.Originally Posted by the horned rat