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Was wondering on the pros & cons to including a dragon in your WE army. I've had alook at some a few lists and no one seems to use one. Points cost or model cost maybe?
I'm fairly new to WE and like the idea of converting a noble on dragon model but if it doesn't make sense to field one I might not bother.
first:Originally Posted by thr33why
hello and welcome to LO
about the dragon:
dragons are powerful and mean with high S attacks and US 5 but the downside is that they attract missle and magic fire as hell.
about the possible point cost look in the WE armybook and create some combo's and post them here.
hope it helps
"Ask not the Eldar a question, for they will give you three answers; all of which are true and terrifying to know"
Scare the living daylights out ov everything. Can take and deal alot of damage.
I use it to kill off the enemies weaker units which draws the better ones close to fleeing units in a hope for a panic test and also gives me the opertunity to flank with by less able units creating an orgy of death for the other team.
Everybody attacks that one unit and nothing else. I say this is a good thing as people easily forget what your other units are doing
CONS: Points cost and it takes ages to paint well
Thanks Fluffy Duck.
The problem with the Wood Elf Dragon is that you're putting a T3 character on top of him who has very little in the way of defense against shooting. You can buy him a talisman to give him a decent ward save, but in the end, enough bowfire will probably kill him, which forces the dragon to take a MR check.
Combined with the fact that Wood Elf Characters are Hella expensive for what they can do, and the dragon more than doubles his cost, it's really not worth it.
In fact, I really don't like the idea of putting characters on large monsters any more. Ever since 6th edition came out, people are usually playing about 2000 point battles, and a lord on a dragon eats up nearly 1/4th of your army's value.
If you're willing to invest the points in an army list and learn to play a dragon in concert with WE forces, then go for it.
They are nasty beasts in combat, and a highborn with the right kit.
Here's a possibility. HB on a dragon with lt armor, enchanted shield, helm of the hunt, and the dawnspear.
I think it'd be fun. Me, I'm intiimidated by the model and don't really look forward to painting one. Maybe one day...
Here's what I would either use :
Highborn @ 568 pts
Shield, Stone Of Crystal Mere, Sword Of Might,
Oaken Armour, Mounted On Dwaagon
Highborn @ 561 pts
Great Weapon, Stone Of Crystal Mere, Bow Of Loren,
Arcane Bodkins, Mounted On Dwaagon.
i love my dragon!
i have a couple of lists and the one that has the dragon is a highborn with a murder of spites, sword of a thousand winters and oaken armour, i hold him back and then at the right moment i take him character hunting!
okay he doesnt always last the game but i repeat...
i love my dragon!
besides theres sometimes a lot to be said for attracting huge amounts of enemy fire, expecially when your wild hunt are sneakily charging down someones flank.
If you want something big and nasty the treemen are great.
I think the biggest drawback to the dragon is the T3 character sitting on top of it. You can shoot str3 bows at a dragon all day and barely scratch it. But a 1/3 of those shots are hitting a T3 character and wounding on 4+. Mind you 2+ armour on the T3 elf can help.
But the unit gets very expensive. 550 odd points is a bit much for 1 unit. You can get neary 2 treemen for that.
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The great thing when fielding such a beast is seeing your opponents reaction:
"Oh crap .. wasn't expecting that."
I mean .. not many people use them anymore and it takes a lot of effort to bring it down. Newer players (not from the era when dragons were everyday challenge) might not even know how to deal with them.
But as mentined before - taking two treemen might be better (it is IMO). Then again .. as I always say .. it's not fun to always use the best things available. Go against the flow and use something different!! :yes: