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So me and my buds were talking today, and we came upon an interesting situation. Eternal Guard, when joined by a Highborn, become stubborn. Our question was, do they get Ld 10 or Ld 9? Since they are not stubborn to begin with, I think since it is a joint condition, they should get ld 10. However the book says you use the Ld of the Stubborn unit themselves.
Remember that they become stubborn when joined by a noble or a highborn - all having a highborn does is make them a core choice.
They are stubborn with Ld9 - the rulebook says it all. A stubborn unit tests against its own leadership, not the leadership of the general. This is why most people put a Battle Standard Bearer in their unit of EG. LD9 is far from a sure bet, so having the reroll is always nice.
You can choose either Ld, however you IF you choose the highborn's and he is not Eternal Kindred then you do not get the subborn rule also.
So you can take Ld10 modified or Ld9 unmodified. (I believe if the highborn is Eternal Kindred then you can have Ld10 unmodified)
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Last edited by Cyric the Mad; June 7th, 2007 at 20:41.
I agree with Misanthrope. The rulebook states clearly how to resolve this. Even if the highborn is of the Eternal Kindred, the EG unit itself uses its base leadership for stubborn tests.
Reading between the lines never substitutes for the explicitly stated.
It has yet to be proven that intelligence has any survival value. - Arthur C. Clarke (1917 - 2008)
Maybe GW doesn't want people to actually read deep into it. I'll stop thinking so hard from now on I guess :x
This one seems nice and settled.