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Going for an assault focused list with 'Quins advancing under the cover of the shadow seer's ability and Avatar nearby. Swooping Hawks drop in an out laying down large blasts and Wraithlords to take down vehicles/heavies.
Avatar @ 155 Pts
Autarch @ 83 Pts
Banshee Mask, Forceshield, Power Weapon, Shuriken Pistol
8 Harlequin Troupe @ 292 Pts
7 Kisses 7 Shuriken Pistol
1 Harle Shadow Seer
Harlequins Kiss, Fusion Pistol
1 Harle Troupe Master
Harlequins Kiss, Fusion Pistol
5 Dire Avengers @ 60 Pts
Guardian Squad @ 165 Pts
10 G Defender Squad
Shuriken Catapult x10, Bright Lance
1 Spiritseer (Warlock)
4 Swooping Hawks @ 132 Pts
1 Swooping Hawk Exarch
1 Wraithlord @ 150 Pts
Flamer x2. Bright Lance, Scatter Laser
Total Roster Cost: 1999/2000
Last edited by TooMad; August 1st, 2007 at 21:08.
Your anti-tank weapons... Mechanised tau (or Eldar), for example, could well have a field day with an army like this.
Single shot heavy weapons in guardians are always risky, and using your wraithlords will often mean you waste the scatter laser (you really want to pair the BL with a missile launcher).
The harlequins are, of course, the big weapon of the army. But you've got virtually nothing to back them up with. Against some armies, they'll rock - against others they'll either be evaded or taken to pieces (drop troop guard love harlequins).
The dire avengers may as well not be there, it seems to me they exist to fill your troops requirements.
The swooping hawks will be a nuisance, but will only be punching above their weight against armies like guard or horde tyranids.
The avatar makes sense, but will you be playing escalation missions? If so, his support role becomes dangerously ineffective.
At the moment it seems you have 30 harlequins and "some stuff". I'd say cut them back to 6 man units and build yourself an army - right now you've got a collection of units that don't really work together as a whole.
Last edited by Rork; August 1st, 2007 at 22:24.
Having an army and not owning a rulebook is like owning a car with no steering wheel.Originally Posted by amishcellphone
For example, what is the purpose of the squad of 5 dire avengers? Your entire troop selection seems to be random
Why do your wraithlords have both an anti-tank weapon and an anti-horde infantry weapon? No matter what you shoot, half of your shots will be useless.
The harlequin fusion pistols are a waste, you will rarely use them if ever.
Overall the army lacks any coherent plan or theme, and has several things which are just plain inefficient and bad. Don't mean to be harsh, just truthful, I wouldn't bring that list to a friendly game even.
Not harsh at all this is the first Eldar list I built and have no idea what the heck I am doing, aiming for a CC heavy list what would be a good thing to compliment the 'Quins? I will drop the fusion pistols of all the 'Quins which will net me 60 points to put somewhere more useful. The Wraithlords I will make specialized. Should I make one anti-vehicle and 2 anti-troop or vice versey? Lots of players where I am so I want a balanced list.
lol, I want a balanced list so I take 30 harlequins, 3 wraithlords, an avatar and rubberhawks with minimum troops. By far the most unbalanced army in the entire 40k game.
Ok if you genuinely want a cc balanced list I'd say drop 2 of those harlequin squads, throw in some infiltrating scorpions and a nice big dire avenger squad. Then pick up some variety in your heavy support (support weapons or war walkers I guess). Rubberhawks also make people hate you as they label it cheese AND is not a really effective tactic. You lose out on both counts.
If you'd rather go for this kind of list swap your wraithlords around a bit. I'd say scatter laser/missile launcher, missile launcher/bright lance and bright lance/wraithsword.
Guardians are much better with a scatter laser.
Merge the hawks into 1 big squad and use them properly. Warp Spiders would be more effective for this particular army (as you lack the range firepower necessary to keep hawks safe) but its up to you if you like hawks.
I would say turn the hawks into spiders and give the autarch a spider jump pack and a fusion gun to jump around with them, they can protect and support your harlequins as well as give you some kind of firepower.
If you ever want a dirt cheap troops choice don't go for avengers, choose either:
10 Guardians /w shurikannon
3 Jetbikes /w shurikannon
If you have the points left over add on more guardians. Your spiritseer needs conceal too. Since you are relying on the spiritseer to babysit 3 wraithlords you can't afford to lose him.
Have fun with the eldar , by the way is this a list you own or a list you plan to get?
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I've already bought about half of the list so far. I am going to magnet the Wraithlords so I will never need to buy another one. I will probably end up running with the above list for a month or two and start making changes based on these suggestions. Will make the adjustments to the Wraithwalkers from the start though along with putting a scatter laser on the Guardians.
Whats wrong with 3 squads of 'Quins? That looks like they would be about as close combat nasty as I can get with Eldar. I recently noticed Dire Avengers can make a nice CC squad with an Exarch, Shimmershield, and Defend.
How do Shining Spears stack up? I could put the Autarch in a Jetbike with Laser Lance and join a Squad of them. With some tweaks to my list I could keep the 'Quins (6 man squads), have a 10 man Dire Avenger squad, and 2 5 man Shining Spear squads all with their Exarchs.