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Autarch (125 points)
-Warp-jump Generator, Mandiblasters, Power Sword and Fusion Gun.
Eldrad Ulthran (210 points)
Storm Guardians (159 points)
-11x Storm Guardians, 2x Storm Guardians with Flamers
-Warlock, Enhance, Singing Spear.
Dire Avengers (152 points)
-10x Dire Avengers(including exarch), Exarch with Diresword + Shuriken pistol and Bladestorm.
Warp Spiders (184 points)
-6x Warp spiders (including exarch), Exarch, Spinneret Rifle and Suprise Assault.
Falcon (195 points)
-1x Falcon with Starcannon, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-fields and Spirit Stones.
The plan is that the Autarch will deepstrike with the warp spiders (yes he can do that) and take on light vehicles and high toughness creatures (eg. carnifexes), Eldrad goes with the dire avengers casting doom, guide, and fortune each turn, the falcon takes on the AT role and the storm guardians assault where most useful. Any suggestions?
I could easily proxy Eldrad for a farseer with guide and doom, but he's already bought and painted, so I'll wait and see what you guys think.
Last edited by Shiz_Vaerth; November 24th, 2007 at 14:14.
However an IC that remains in reserve is not joined to a unit. Therefore he cannot deepstrike since the WS Exarch power extends only to the unit and joined Autarch...
That was the argument of the naysayers... By RAW I must admit they seem right...
But Eldrad seems a very heavy choice in a 1000 pts list...
Now, seriously, ... Of course you can play Eldrad, I think it is now "legal" without point limitation. However I suggest you consider two things :
- many players will feel that it is unfriendly to use heavy HQ special characters in small size battles; that's because they tend to dominate the game;
- for the same reason, I think you will find that a list that is "unbalanced" by such a strong single character unit is actually less fun to play : Eldrad will "structure" the game along the same lines, game after game (we both deploy, I redeploy, my Eldrad rips into your units from turn 3 on, mauls you, I win... yessssssss ! 8Y )
So I think that replacing him by a regular Farseer will actually give you an army that will be more fun to play (although you might win less often... ;-)
Just my two bits from old Europe
I would drop him for another reason. Eldrad isn't worth the points in such a small game. He affects play through other units and your list is at risk of running out of chaps for Eldrad to guide etc by turn 3-4.
Drop one of your HQs. I don't like Eldrad or the autarch. As MurekZar says a 80-130 point farseer will be better in my opinion and leave you over 200 points to buy more units to get the model count up.
What about another 10 dire avangers and 4 more warp spiders?
Or another Falcon?
Or a wraithlord and some vanilla fire dragons.
Quorn! - Protein for the Protein God.
I can't be affording to shelve any units so I'll have to proxy him, outside of friendly games is this legal? I'll put the extra points to improving my warp spiders, giving the exarch powerblades and withdraw, then I'll get some more spiders.
Sure can. I always use the Brother Captain Stern model as a generic HQ for my Deamon Hunters.
Eldrad is quite useful in 1500 to 2000 point games where there are many units able to make use of his three psi powers per turn. Just watch out for deep striking psicannon.
Quorn! - Protein for the Protein God.
So apart from Eldrad is there anything else that you guys feel needs to change? Or is my list alright now?
Yeah, it looks like a pretty solid list. The only thing I would change, and I'm not recommending you do this as it is just personal taste, would be to drop the storm guardians for another 'shooty' squad of avengers. I think the revised spiders you were talking about using would be more effective (more power weapon attacks can only be a good thing) and it takes a bit of pressure of your Autarch to perform in close combat. Nice list.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain (It's time to roll the dice)- Mattrim Cauthon
I'd prefer to keep them as they provide a dedicated assault aspect along with templates and a S9 ranged weapon. In the grand scheme of things I don't see that I would be gaining more by swapping the storms for DA's. I'm not trying to fob off your advice off, I asked for it, maybe you explain what i missed.