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    2000 pts balanced Eldar designed for newer player.

    Greetings, I'm designing an Eldar army from some excess Eldar models of mine for a new player. I want the army to be successful on the battlefield, and fun to play against any opponent. I don't have many extra models, but I do have a few more options that are listed after the list. Suggestions are welcome

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    Avatar - 155
    Farseer w/ spirit stones, fortune, mind war - 125
    5 Warlocks w/ Destructor - 175

    TROOPS
    6 Pathfinders - 144
    12 Guardians w/ Starcannon - 121
    12 Guardians w/ Starcannon - 121
    No Warlocks because all the Warlock models I have are tied up in the retinue.

    ELITES
    6 Harlequins (All kisses) - 132
    6 Fire Dragons (Exarch w/ firepike) - 116
    10 Striking Scorpions - Exarch w/ stalker, shadowstrike, biting blade - 202
    Have 10 Howling Banshees as well.

    FAST ATTACK
    1 Vyper w/ Scatter laser, shuriken cannon - 70
    Harassment unit

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    1 Falcon w/ SE, VE, SS, HF, SL - 210 (Harlies)
    1 Falcon w/ SE, VE, SS, HF, SL - 210 (Dragons)
    1 Falcon w/ SE, VE, SS, HF, SL - 210 (Warlocks)

    Total: 1991

    Quick-fix strategy:
    -Avatar / Guardians / Farseer / (and to a lesser extent) Striking Scorpions; footslogging up the middle, ready to support.
    -Falcons drops unit close to enemy vulnerability.
    -Pathfinders, Vyper used as harassment units.

    OPTIONS:
    -No warlock unit, convert a Falcon to a Waveserpent (have scorpions or banshees ride), include Wraithlord as 3rd heavy choice
    -More pathfinders
    -Dark Reapers
    -More Harlequins or more fire dragons

    Thanks in advance for any comments about the list or its effectiveness.


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    Ok first thing. I wouldn't suggest going to 2k for a new player. Lots to keep track of and in general it'll just take a whole lotta time to finish a game. Also runs the risk of coming up against things like nidzilla lists which migh be a disaster for the new player.

    But the list is generally good. I don't think I'd suggest star engines in general (since I'm pretty sure you can't use them while glanced due to the in lieu of shooting wording). But for a new player they can be fun. Ditto some of the other options. For example often the fire dragon exarc is frowned on as points inneficiant, but it lets a new player be off by a couple inches when they deploy and still get to hit. I'd expect the list to do fairly well so long as you're around to coach them.

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    I would drop 2 warlocks from the retinue and attach them to the guardian squads and give them conceal - makes the guardians a bit more survivable and 5 flamers in a unit is a little over the top.
    As it is for a new player I would follow sunnysides advice and drop the point size. 1k I found is a good starting point. Games don't take too long and you have enough variation in a list to get a general idea of how each unit works, and you don't come across too many 'nasties'.
    Therefore I would instead by looking at making 2 x 1000pt lists.
    Something like:
    Farseer with guide
    6 Fire Dragons - Exarch with Firepike
    5 Pathfinders
    12 Guardians - Starcannon, Warlock with conceal
    12 Guardians - Starcannon, Warlock with conceal
    Falcon - Vectored Engines, Spirit Stones, Scatter Laser
    some kind of close combat unit like banshees or harlies.
    Don't know what points level that comes out at - probably a bit over - but try a couple of 1k-ish lists out and let them get a feel of the game before going to 2k.
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    VEs and SEs on 3 Falcon cost 105 pts. I understand the point of zooming with them as transports, early in the game. However I think this costly investment might be reconsidered.

    The Star Cannons might be better on 2 Falcons (good combination with the Pulse Laser, same AP). Then Scatter Lasers with the Guardians (traditional choice...).

    Definitely put a Warlock (Conceal) in each of the Guardian units.

    If your Farseer + retinue go for assault, why not have Enhance ? Embolden can also be interesting if you follow RAW and re-roll all failed Leadership tests (including psy tests of the Farseer...).

    Dragon Exarch : the consensus here seems to be that he is a waste of points. Firepike tempts you to leave the unit out of range for the Fusion Guns, which is a waste.

    Harlequins : I like to have a Shadowseer; but then, I do not put them in a Falcon...


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    As stated by everyone else, a warlock in each Guardian squad is more ideal. They'll do more good there than in the retinue.

    I'd be tempted to keep the retinune (3 warlocks w/ destructor, ehance, embolden) with the farseer, and have them footslog with the Avatar and Scorpions. You can then drop a Falcon, and take your 10 Banshees as well.

    The list would have enough models to be pretty forgiving.
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