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    2000 Biel-tan

    First post omg, :party2:

    HQ
    Eldrad Ulthran - 210
    Farseer - Spirit Stones, Doom, Guide - 120

    Elites
    Striking Scorpions x10 - Exarch, Scorpion's Claw, Stalker, Shadowstrike - 212
    Fire Dragons x10 - Exarch, Crackshot - 177
    Wave Serpent - Twin-linked Shuirken Cannons, Spirit Stones, Cannon upgrade - 120
    Harlequins x6 - Kiss x5, Troupe Master w/ Power Weapon, Shadowseer - 178

    Troops
    Dire Avengers x10 - Exarch w/ dual Catapults, Bladestorm - 152
    Dire Avengers x10 - Exarch w/ dual Catapults, Bladestorm - 152

    Fast Attack
    Warp Spiders x5 - Exarch w/ dual Spinners, Powerblades, Withdraw - 152

    Heavy Support
    Falcon - Scatter Laser, Holo-field, Spirit Stones, Cannon upgrade - 185
    Fire Prism - Holo-fields, Spirits Stones, Cannon upgrade - 170
    Fire Prism - Holo-fields, Spirits Stones, Cannon upgrade - 170

    Total: 1998


    Any thoughts or suggestions?

    Last edited by clairvoyance; May 21st, 2008 at 19:28.

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    HQ: Nice and heavy psy powers. Could you be overdoing it on the doom & guide as by turn 4 you could run out of Avengers to use it? Eldrad alone might be plenty or 2 standard 120 point farseers.

    Scorpions: Perfect
    Fire dragons: Drop the exarch and probably drop to 6-8 men. Unless trying to gun down terminators the large numbers shouldn't be needed to finnish off any tank.
    Harleys: OK could drop the troope master for points and to up the numbers. If you are using the falcon as a taxi then the shadowseer as well can be dropped.

    Dire Avengers: Classic. Get a third unit if you downgrade the HQs

    Spiders: Good loadout but I would perfer to see around 8 men in the unit.

    Falcon: Drop the cannon upgrade as in 5th edition it wont be able to move and fire.
    Prisms: Good.
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    This isn't an Ulthwe list really. It has no guardians and a ton of aspects, which is the opposite of Ulthwe.
    "War does not determine who is right - only who is left" Bertrand Russell

    We bring only death, and leave only carrion. It is a message even a Human can understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amishcellphone View Post
    This isn't an Ulthwe list really. It has no guardians and a ton of aspects, which is the opposite of Ulthwe.
    True enough. I guess it's more of a Biel-tan list.


    This is my updated list, with a new color scheme :p

    HQ
    Farseer - Runes of Warding, Spirit Stones, Doom, Guide - 135
    Farseer - Spirit Stones, Doom, Guide - 120

    Elites
    Striking Scorpions x10 - Exarch, Scorpion's Claw, Stalker, Shadowstrike - 212
    Fire Dragons x6 - 96
    Harlequins x10 - Kiss x9, Troupe Master w/ Power Weapon, Shadowseer - 266

    Troops
    Dire Avengers x9 - Exarch w/ dual Catapults, Bladestorm - 140
    Wave Serpent - Twin-linked Shuirken Cannons, Spirit Stones - 110
    Dire Avengers x9 - Exarch w/ dual Catapults, Bladestorm - 140
    Wave Serpent - Twin-linked Shuirken Cannons, Spirit Stones - 110

    Fast Attack
    Warp Spiders x6 - Exarch w/ dual Spinners, Powerblades, Withdraw - 174

    Heavy Support
    Falcon - Scatter Laser, Holo-field, Spirit Stones - 175
    Fire Prism - Holo-fields, Spirits Stones - 160
    Fire Prism - Holo-fields, Spirits Stones - 160

    Total: 1998
    Last edited by clairvoyance; May 21st, 2008 at 19:19.

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    Oh cmon you just wanted an excuse to use Eldrad, admit it! haha Don't worry I won't tell anyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amishcellphone View Post
    Oh cmon you just wanted an excuse to use Eldrad, admit it! haha Don't worry I won't tell anyone
    :ninja3:.
    That's pretty much the reason. That and black and white is really easy to paint >_>

    I like Biel-tan's scheme more, anyway. I'd prefer to make more sense fluff-wise than cater to my laziness.

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    The only thing I'm not too happy about is the harlie squad. With 9 kisses they will absolutely annihilate anything they come in contact with, but will most likely get shot to pieces cause they cant hide in combat. I think the right number of kisses is 6, also I think the troupe master is an unnecessary point sink. 10x Harlies w/ 6 kisses, Shadowseer 234pts. With the extra points you can buff the spider squad to 7 (8 would be ideal). Also, what are your plans for your Farseers? I'm not really sure what they are supposed to be doing. Other than that the list looks great.

    Welcome to LO by the way, I'm always happy to see a new face around here.
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    Another revision.

    HQ
    Farseer - Runes of Warding, Spirit Stones, Doom, Guide - 135
    Farseer - Spirit Stones, Doom, Guide - 120

    Elites
    Striking Scorpions x10 - Exarch, Scorpion's Claw, Stalker, Shadowstrike - 212
    Fire Dragons x6 - 96
    Harlequins x8 - Kiss x6, Shadowseer - 266

    Troops
    Dire Avengers x10 - Exarch w/ dual Catapults, Bladestorm - 152
    Wave Serpent - Twin-linked Shuirken Cannons, Spirit Stones - 110
    Dire Avengers x10 - Exarch w/ dual Catapults, Bladestorm - 152
    Wave Serpent - Twin-linked Shuirken Cannons, Spirit Stones - 110

    Fast Attack
    Warp Spiders x8 - Exarch w/ dual Spinners, Powerblades, Withdraw - 218

    Heavy Support
    Falcon - Scatter Laser, Holo-field, Spirit Stones - 175
    Fire Prism - Holo-fields, Spirits Stones - 160
    Fire Prism - Holo-fields, Spirits Stones - 160

    Total: 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by Amishcellphone View Post
    Also, what are your plans for your Farseers? I'm not really sure what they are supposed to be doing.
    Chillin with the DAs.

    Welcome to LO by the way, I'm always happy to see a new face around here.
    Thanks.

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    Harlie squad cost should be 202. I'm not sure your farseers are geared to assist the da. They are both on foot which means they won't be able to keep up with your DA's transports. Also DA already have great BS, I dont necessarily think that they need the assistance of guide.

    I would change the farseer loadout to Farseer - doom jetbike singing spear RoWarding 128pts, and either a second farseer with doom or mindwar, a jetbike and a singing spear 113/108 pts. (doom and mind war respectively) I think this change will make your army move alot more smoothly.

    With my revisions you should have 17 points leftover, I would probably use it for an extra body in the harlie squad bringing your list to 2001.
    Last edited by Amishcellphone; May 21st, 2008 at 20:13.
    "War does not determine who is right - only who is left" Bertrand Russell

    We bring only death, and leave only carrion. It is a message even a Human can understand.

    W/D/L
    Eldar: 3-3-1

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