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w/ Punisher, t.helm, reaver, shadow field, combat drugs, plasma grenades
w/ 2x Dark Lances
w/ 2x Dark Lances
w/ Sybarite + agoniser, 2 blasters, 2 splinter cannons
w/ Succubus, punisher, t-helm, 2 blasters
This is my first Dark Eldar list, I have yet to play the army so this will be the first list I want to use. This is also my first 40k army, and I heard DE has a huge learning curve, but I am up to the challenge . The list was inspired by Splatas' 1000pts. Basically send the reavers up one flank, the talos'/20warriors up the other, and the 2 squades of 10 in the middle. I am worried about the reaver squad because chances are any thing I hit with this will leave me in the open on their turn - so I will have to be careful. I considered splitting the squads up in 5/3; however, even if the Dracon has a shadow field I believe it is to small of a squad to have running around and eventually I will fail his beautiful save. Also, the three man squad will be able to do barely anything on its own besides hold up certain things, unless I charged a unit with both reaver squads. Rather have them in one big unit. The other flank is mostly there to diverge fire, and eventually on turn 3 (hopefully), something will hit combat and any of these units will do damage.
Was tempted to try using 1 WWP; however, I think it's too small of an army
Let me know what you think,
Last edited by Twiddle; September 12th, 2008 at 05:52.
No help from anyone?
Welcome to the dark side.
The list looks good. The only concern I have is the Reaver Squad. In my experience, when you start Reavers on the table, (especially a squad the size of this one), they always seem to be the opponent's first priority target. I once had an entire squad wiped off the table before I ever got to move because he had 1st turn and exclusively targeted my Reavers.
This was the situation prior to 5th edition and I haven't used Reavers in 5th edition yet. Maybe with the new rules, our troops will become the primary target, but that Reaver squad will probably still get a lot of attention.
I think now that reavers gain all the eldar jetbike benefits really helps that. I am going to have to play test that squad and if you are right about them being to big of a target they will be changed. At the same time, if they only shoot at the reavers then they have 2 talos running down the field at them... which is scary
I am also considering dropping the 20warrior block into a raider, any opinions? Using only one boat makes me nervous
Quick question, does a dracon mounted on a reaver with a punisher get +1A when wearing a t-helm because of an additional close combat weapon?
Dracon w/T-Helm and Punisher on Reaver is now one of the better HQ options, especially since you're using that big Reaver Squad.
I love WWPs, but at 1k, I'd leave it out. I don't break out my WWP until 1750; or 1500 if I'm running a Wych Cult.
However.. if I were you, I'd probably trade the bikes for 8 Wyches on a Raider and use the spare points to upgrade one of your Sniper Squads to a 10-man Raider mounted assault squad with an Agoniser Sybarite. You'll still have the same number of DLs (since the Raiders each have one) and you'll have some speedy assault muscle, as well. If you need a few extra points to do that, you could probably get them from the 20 man squad.
If you decide to stick with the big squad of Reavers, I'd definitely put the Dracon on a bik.. if not, send him with the Wyches.
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If anyone is wondering, 5thED Talos are now amazing,
This list is now 4-1-1, with the first loss mostly resulting in bad rolls (and playing against a Marine player using the new codex... first turn: drop pods 3in away from my bikes, dreadnaught comes out and heavy flames/autocannons all the reavers besides the Dracon, who overdossed on a drug and got shot down by my talos )
When I upgrade my list to 1500 I am going to try and fit in 3 talos', another 20 block of warriors, a wych boat, and superboats (really like this idea)
Got shot down by your talos?
Unless I'm very wrong, you only shoot the closest enemies, not friendlies as well, so that should not have happened!
What games have you played? cap&control, sieze ground? KP's? what does this list seem to do well at?
What are the enemies finding difficult to kill in your list?
20 warriors in a block. To me this seems excessive. How is it holding out for you?
As I'm sure you read, with my list I found the taloi to be quite effective, if not a bit slow, and the jetbikes to be getting swamped by other units as they were just a bit precise. Not getting this?
You may be able to tell I'm quite interested. Just have taken my time to show it... oops.
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