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    1500pt Ulthwe

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    4x warlock bodyguard, enhance, embolden and 1 singing spear
    10x guardians
    Warlock, conceal, Scatter laser
    10x guardians
    Warlock, conceal, scatter laser
    10x Storm guardians
    Warlock enhance, 2x flamers
    5x pathfinders
    2x vypers
    2x EML, 2x Shuricannon
    Wraithlord
    EML, Flamers
    Fire Prism
    Fire Prism

    This equals 1500 pts exactly
    I would like more guardians in the squads but don't really want to give up and of the other units.
    I am also worried that i dont have enough anti tank. so if anyone has an opinion i would love to hear it!
    Thanks in advance for any help!


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    You could remove the EML from the vypers and just add another shuriken cannon, then add another vyper with the same equipment. They become as mass of death and are not as prone to missing as with an EML.

    Although you would have to make up the antitank somewhere else, either the defenders (i wouldnt want to) or just let you prisms target the armour.

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    if i had another shuricannon on the vypers i would only be able to move 6" and fire all the weapons, instead of 12". i'm trying to keep them really mobile so they can harass and such.

    Btw thanks for relpying iwas begining to think no one would

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    ive not seen much use from conceal in my own list on guardains, new rules mean that its easy enough to get a 4+ cover save if youre careful.

    you could save 80 pts. maybe 2 war walkers with shuriken cannons.

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    Well that would be good but i'm out of HS slots. maybe i could drop conceal and get embolden, but what should i get then. I would only have and extra 20 pts.

    EDIT: just did some maths in my head(i might be wrong please correct if i am) if i drop conceal for embolden, and also drop one of the warlocks from Eldrad's bodyguard and also a singing spear, i would have 48 pts for 6 more guardians which could go 2 to each squad. what do you think of that?
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    id say emboldens pretty much pointless really, certainly compared to losign warlocks, if anything id add the 2 warlocks from the guadians into eldrads squad or drop pathfinders upgrade and have 2 5man ranger squads

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    I think i might just keep conceal, it might save my but one day. is the pathfinder upgrade worth the points? because i could probably use those points more effectively somewhere else if it isn't.

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    pathfinder used to be great, but now your either being hit by stuff ignoring cover, or getting2/3 up anyway with the +1.

    i think 10 rangers will kill more on average than 7 pathfinders (same points roughly)

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    OK, i've gone for quite a different list
    Tell me what you think.

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    3x warlocks, enhance, embolden, 2x singing spears(should help with some extra anti tank)
    15x guardians
    warlock, conceal, scatter laser
    15x guardians
    warlock, conceal, scatter laser
    16x Storm guardians
    Warlock enhance, 2 flamers, singing spear
    Vyper
    EML, Shuriken Cannon
    Vyper
    EML, shuriken Cannon
    Wraithlord
    EML, Flamer.
    Fire Prism
    Fire Prism

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    Whats the motivation for the EML and Shuricannon mix on the vypers? Its very common now, it that due to the new rule changes in regard to skimmers? I havent had a chance to fondle the rule book unfortunately, but it seems by whats being said the 2x Shuricannon is less effective.

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