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    First 1k List with Empire codex/5th ed

    Have put together loads of list with 3rd/4th ed and the old codex but this is my first bash at a list. Very similar to what I used to play which was a static fire warrior line with the broadside sitting with them.

    only worry was that 2 troops choices is a little bit light, was considering switching the pathfinders for a big load of kroot to up the model count and allow me to infiltrate/flank somewhere mean

    HQ
    Shas'el XV8 107
    Missile Pod
    Plasma Rifle
    Multi-Tracker
    Drone Controller + 2 Drones

    Elites
    Shas'ui XV8 53
    TL Fusion Blaster
    Drone Controller + 1 Drones

    5 x Stealh Suits XV15 150

    Troops
    11 x Shas'la 140
    Shas'ui
    Markerlight

    11 x Shas'la 140
    Shas'ui
    Markerlight

    Fast Attack
    Pathfinder team 152
    6 x Shas'la
    Devilfish

    Heavy Support
    Broadside 85
    Team Leader
    A.S.S.

    Hammerhead 170
    Railgun
    SMS
    MT

    Last edited by eadipus; November 25th, 2008 at 21:57.
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    i would change the pathfinders into kroot like you mentioned. they will be much more usefull at the 1000 point level. also, what kind of drones are you using on your suits?
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    gun drones, always gun drones. I think I'll switch the pathfinders for kroot, it'll give me an incentive to finish painting the two boxes of half finished ones I have sitting in my case. Will also free up a few points for a disruption pod on the hammerhead
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    Ignore the red and i'll rewrite every codex using nothing but your supply of sauce.

    Quote Originally Posted by eadipus View Post
    Have put together loads of list with 3rd/4th ed and the old codex but this is my first bash at a list. Very similar to what I used to play which was a static fire warrior line with the broadside sitting with them.

    only worry was that 2 troops choices is a little bit light, was considering switching the pathfinders for a big load of kroot to up the model count and allow me to infiltrate/flank somewhere mean

    HQ
    Shas'el XV8 107
    Missile Pod
    Plasma Rifle
    Multi-Tracker
    Drone Controller + 2 Drones

    EEEEK!! Drones, nasty nasty drones. Where is your TA? Hmm? Lose a drone and get a TA, BS4 hq's is not on.

    Elites
    Shas'ui XV8 53
    TL Fusion Blaster
    Drone Controller + 1 Drones

    This is a suicide suit, lose the drone, its not neccesary, give him a TA instead so he has a lesser chance of balsing up his one shot.

    5 x Stealh Suits XV15 150

    Nice, i love seeing proper stealths, no upgrades.

    Troops
    11 x Shas'la 140
    Shas'ui
    Markerlight

    11 x Shas'la 140
    Shas'ui
    Markerlight
    You have pathfinders, these ML's aren't going to do poop, lose em and allow yourself some mobility.
    Fast Attack
    Pathfinder team 152
    6 x Shas'la
    Devilfish
    No DP on your fish? Bad! get a DP, no excuses, DP's are vital. As are pathfinders (although not as much, but ML's are good, hide the fish for 3-4 turns, then rush the largest FW team to an objective)
    Heavy Support
    Broadside 85
    Team Leader
    A.S.S.
    Team leader is useless, trim the fat. ASS is good.
    Hammerhead 170
    Railgun
    SMS
    MT
    Bleh, scatter, although i'm partial to a hammerhead or two in 1500pts+, because against most armies if you scatter your blasting something. Smaller games not so much, and as the sole tank in your army, he's attracting every piece of AT and Anti-MC fire, ergo he's not lasting long. Switch him out for another ASS XV88 (for anti MC), and either a deathrain for Light AV if you're comfortable with 2 troops, or get some FW's/kroot, with the spare points garnered from hacking off the surplus ML's, your get either 11FW's or 16 kroot, no upgrades though.

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    since when has the hammerhead pie plate scattered? is this one of the changes in the empire codex that I've missed?


    I do love my hammerhead, not sure I could stand to see him go. Especially since I'm most likely going to be up against 'nids or orks where the AP on the pie plate will really hurt.

    I'll give it a little re-write when I get home, might split it into 2 lists, one with pathfinders, one krooted and suited
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    Quote Originally Posted by eadipus View Post
    since when has the hammerhead pie plate scattered? is this one of the changes in the empire codex that I've missed?


    I do love my hammerhead, not sure I could stand to see him go. Especially since I'm most likely going to be up against 'nids or orks where the AP on the pie plate will really hurt.

    I'll give it a little re-write when I get home, might split it into 2 lists, one with pathfinders, one krooted and suited
    It is a 5th edition change - all weapons that use the blast and large blast markers scatter 2d6-BS (or 2d6 in the case of ordinance). So the submuntion will always "hit", but will scatter an average of 3" two thirds of the time.

    Personally, I like the hammerhead also and would keep it in 1000 points.

    As for the pathfinder/kroot debate... I love both in larger games but I think I would stick to Kroot in a smaller game. They can take objectives and are cheap and quite good. Infiltrate them into cover (near an objective when possible) and watch them frustrate your opponent the whole game, then move at the end to take the objective if necessary. Or, if you are facing a large amount of weaker troops, add some hounds and charge when the enemy is close enough. They can easily take a like number of softer troops, or a small to medium marine unit and such if you get the charge attack bonus.
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    the railhead pie plate scatter makes me a sad panda

    ok, this is the with pathfinder list:

    HQ

    Shas'el XV8 107
    Missile Pod
    Plasma Rifle
    Multi-Tracker
    Drone Controller + 1 Gun Drone
    Targeting Array

    Elites
    Shas'ui XV8 53
    TL Fusion Blaster
    Targeting Array

    5 x Stealh Suits XV15 150

    Troops
    11 x Shas'la 130
    Shas'ui


    11 x Shas'la 130
    Shas'ui


    Fast Attack
    Pathfinder team 169
    7 x Shas'la
    Devilfish
    Disruption pod

    Heavy Support
    Broadside 80
    A.S.S.

    Hammerhead 175
    Railgun
    SMS
    Multi-Tracker
    Disruption pod


    HQ
    Shas'el XV8 107
    Missile Pod
    Plasma Rifle
    Multi-Tracker
    Drone Controller + 1 Gun Drone
    Targeting Array

    Elites
    Shas'ui XV8 53
    TL Fusion Blaster
    Targeting Array

    Shas'ui XV8 62
    Missile Pod
    Plasma Rifle
    Multi-Tracker

    5 x Stealh Suits XV15 150

    Troops
    11 x Shas'la 130
    Shas'ui

    11 x Shas'la 130
    Shas'ui

    16 x Kroot 112

    Heavy Support
    Broadside 80
    A.S.S.

    Hammerhead 175
    Railgun
    SMS
    Multi-Tracker
    Disruption pod


    any thoughts on either list and which should get an airing this weekend are welcome. I'd quite like to give the new markerlight rules an outing but I do love my kroot and the glory of their nom nom nom for the empire.
    Last edited by eadipus; November 28th, 2008 at 00:44.
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