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I am fairly new to Warhammer 40k, and I've posted a list before. I revised it and bought some more stuff so here.
+Veil of Dark
1501 Phase 11
Put the monolith in the center and flank it with 2 Warrior Squads. Leave the other in reserve, or behind the monolith. The Lord VOD's with Immortals around, unleashing a hail fire of death. They use the monoliths teleport to either escape CC or aurment WWB. Is it smart?
A solid list, remember that if you're playing competitively at 1500 points your opponents won't let you go a point over. I recommend dropping a scarab swarm to find the points, and then, since you'll have leftovers, give a squad disruption fields. You will have trouble with heavy armour, but glance it enough and you'll shear off all of the weapons, immobilize it or stop it from shooting/moving all game. Destroy all weapons and immobilize it, and another weapon destroyed/immobilized roll with destroy the vehicle. It'll take a while outside of rapid-fire range though.
My gaming group's new motto: That army you're using is overpowered because it hurts my guys, codex is broken and needs a rewrite.
the army that you are currently using is a standard 1500pt list but with only 3 destroyers and not any Heavy destroyers will screw you over really hard. If u were yo vs a guard player with thanks or SM with landraiders can u glance it enough to destroy it? or it will be to late to destroy before it Destroys you, thats something u need to consider.
So i wrapped it up for you
i have dropped the other squad there is no need for 30 Necron warriors when u have 10 immortals, i find it a hastle to move so many of them 20 is enough just keep them back shooting and with Immortals Break their front Line.
dont add scarabs they can be good but for their point why not reconsider adding other things?
3x Heavy destroyers
with the 80 Points spare either add in scarabs or make a squad of 4 destroyers for more firepower.
flank the destroyers and heavy destroyers Left and right put them in cover Warriors side my side Monolith as mono stays in center. Fly Immortals and Lord when the time is right and shoot at them from back to front confusing them on what they should be doing. and blow holes with Monolith while STAYING back with warriors and shooting DO not more the warriors dont get them charged and theres No Need for rapid fire if u can stay back and Put so Much firepower on their front Line
woops error Lord should have
all ur doing with the list is adding another destroyer and adding 3 heavies for the tank Killing. the army is very vulnerable to be blasting and is intimidating to see many tanks while u have Nothing that really can put as much use.
In my army i only use 2 heavies, i have 6 heavies but 2 heavies seem to be perfect on my first turn again marines with my NB i destroyer a dreads Power fist with the Lightning arc, heavy blew a vindicator and 20 necron warriors fired at other vindicator destroyer main cannon immobilising it and stunning it it was so funny u shud see the reaction on his face.
he had 1 Kill point where as i had i think 7 i suicided my scarabs which wasnt so smart and Scarabs can be a easy Kill POint to ur opponent u are vsing.
Last edited by Karmoon; December 29th, 2008 at 18:50.
Well I have 2 Heavies, and 4 destroyers. A tomb spyder and 8 scarab swarms. So this is the new list. I decided to keep the third warrior squad for points.
+Veil of Dark
1 Heavy Destroyer
1 Heavy Destroyer
Should I throw in Scarabs to fill up?
eg List 1;
3x Heavy destroyers (note; <----- these can be substituted for 4 normal destroyers)
eg list 2;
3x heavy destroyers
there are some examples of competitive list i use; and sorry if i kind of drove of topic wasnt my intention to hehe, do ask more questions if u need any or if u want any advice on toruney Lists.
Yeah, the thing is. I am kinda poor at the moment. But if I do buy something should I buy regular destroyers or Heavy? Or should I just try and get some small strong magnets and make them interchangeable. After all, the heavy destroyer box comes with reg destroyer guns. Oh, and you have a C'Tan in both armies. Do you like the Nightbringer or the Deciever more?
Last edited by Lord Vetch; December 28th, 2008 at 19:11. Reason: C'Tan
Evil_crons, please work on your sentence structure and use full words. Also if you need to add something there is an "edit post" option on the bottom right of your posts. Use this instead of double posting, thank you.
Lord Vetch, your lists look reasonable, though there are some adjustments that could be very helpful for you.
Generally speaking I personally find heavy destroyers (I only ever field 2 mind) to be very ineffective, vehicles fall rather quickly to the fire from our other gauss weapons, and against armies without vehicles HDs rarely kill quickly enough to make them worth taking.
Your last list looks good, however it's 85 points over, work through again and do some recounting.
I say this rather often, but it bears repeating. VoD is a very powerful wargear, however it is a double-edged sword be very careful while using it, I suggest not teleporting your Immortals out alone where they can get singled out too quickly. Much as I love VoD I've honestly lost a good number of games abusing it. Don't be afraid to use it, just be smart.
Get standard destroyers, they're far more useful in most situations.
Sorry about that Alzer im still new to the forums and dont go on often , and yes im working on my sentence structure im bad at Punctuation!
vetch is really is ur option how u want ur army, either u want more destroyers or more heavies, personally i take 2 squads of 2 heavies, i had a game today and they did alot on the black templars, if u did take 2 squads of 1 heavies wouldnt u think its an easy Kill point? =/ but its upto you.
oh and my favourite C'tan let alone my favourite model its the NIGHTBRINGER but it abuses its point value to costy in small battles but can change the game around. For tactical reason's and when going in tourneys i use decevier as It can be Much better. Nightbringer is a deadly HQ a moving las cannon shot that eats tanks for breakfast with shooting and CC.
oh and lorc vetch ur army already has 10 immortals i just forgot about that, thats already alot of firepower i dont really feel the neccessary for more destroyers, although they are Much better and very good in most situations. TAKE THE HEAVIES no need for more destroyers u have 10 Immortals Muahahahha!
I just wanted to add 2 cents here. I like the suggestions above, but my lists at 1500 usually look different. I agree with above people too that I don't like heavy D's, just too spendy for the little bang they carry. More destroyers means more to ensure you get that WBB roll! I also field 10 warriors per 500 pts, so at 1500 you should have 3 squads of 10. Particularly since they are vital to objectives now!
My list looks like this:
And there's an army with a bunch of punch, but also objective capability. You can swap things out to add more destroyers too, like dropping immortals for destroyers is always a good option too (could field three squads of 3 destroyers if you wanted)! I just like to field lots of things, and not stack 15 destroyers against people...devastating! And yes a deceiver instead of a lord would be great too!
Last edited by Dark Trainer; December 29th, 2008 at 16:25.
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