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i just used this list tonight and agianst space marines to be more specific crimcon fisrt but he also plays a (blood angle space marine army) and i got pretty beat up and was wondering if any one had some suggestions on how to improve it.
i was thinking maybe of dropping the pathfinders and harliquines to free up points for other modles but not to sure seeing as i only have on squad of banshees for cc. thanks in advance for any and all help
10 dire avengers
including exarch with two shuriken catipults and blade storm 140
10 howling banshees
including 1exarch with exicutinor and war shout power 187
with star cannon 105
with star cannons to transport the banshees 115
with maniblasters and power wepon 90
i usualy put him in with the harleis to up there squad size
all with kiss's and a 1 shadowseer 162
5 pathfinders 120
1 warwalker with two star cannons 80
Last edited by lame; February 19th, 2009 at 03:37. Reason: didnt put an explination
Well. First off you've got a big problem with starcannons. They used to be awsome.
At two shots and that price they just don't deliver, even against marines.
For example for only 20 points more you can go from 2 starcannon walkers to 3 scatter walkers.
24 scatter shots will kill as many marines as the 8 star cannon shots you have right now, even in the open, and will vastly outperform against transports, units in cover, and 3 walkers hold up to incoming fire better than 2.
For more suggestions you might want to describe how you lost.
Last edited by sunnyside; February 14th, 2009 at 04:15.
i was using the star cannons because i figured i need some anti tank and firgured that the two extra shots would help more then using two brigt lances well im not exactly sure how i lost but i can tell u most of his units he had two rhnios with bolters a predetor two squads of 10 battle squad i think there called and a jump pack squade that he used his librine in.
Hi just one quick thought, perhaps change out the autarch for a doom seer? banshees perform much better with it, blade storm hurts more, and even harlies can gain because of the extra rolls to try and get rends with. If he was using the librarians powers alot runes of warding would shut them down about 50% of the time and force some perils tests.
yeah i plan on getting one i bought the atutarch when i first got my army so i hadn't reall read about the farseers yet. he actualy only got his liberian power off once and it was the one that uses the template right into the middle of my banshees. but most of the game i think i played pretty badly. first turn my war walker go two of his one swuad for get what the where might have been a vetreine squad i only shot at them cause it was the only thing i could see in the beging but the rest of the shots into vehicals did nothing.it survived every wepon the preditor had shot at it in the first turn from luck but fell the secound turn but not before being imoblized twice which resulted in a wepon being destroyed before he wrecked it.. my pathfinders i put in cover with a good channel to fire down but they where to far back and only got a cuple shots off with which killed two of his marines on there ap of 1 rule and i think hit a third that got a save. then he passed the moral check. but he only took one shot at my pathfinders which got there nice cover save of +2 so i lost none there in the end this was my only unit left. my dire avengers i put in a building which he eneded up bringing a rhino up to and deploying the 5 guys that where in it with in assault distance i took this to my advantage and blade stromed then assulted him the blade storm took out 2 marines and i got another in the assult but held they held combat for about 2 turns before they where destroyed i got my wave serpent behind his predutor and took a shot but failed to do anything to it and this is when i deployed my banshees i think i might have waited to long to deploy them. anyways the wave serpent fell that turn after 3 rockets two plasma shots i think it was a rocket that took it down over all it survied alot of fire power with out even getting a stunned result due to bad dice roles for him.and the banshees got completely whiped out in his shooting fase since pretty much all his units could shoot it and the librian. my guardian got shot to shreads about turn four from his two rhinos and another squad of 5. and the harliquines went down the same turn from the preditor which he got all his shots off and i couldnt get a save.
sorry it took me a day to replie the report