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Ok, im going to have 4 of these squads all exactly the same except 1 squad has 11 boys instead of 12 because the mek is going to ride with them
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The Army List has a serioius typo. Under Options It says "Replace choppa with one of the following:" where the burna is listed. This is followed by an option that says "Replace slugga with one of the following:". Then there is a third option, where the KFF is listed, that says the EXACT same thing "Replace slugga with one of the following:" BUT it should say "Replace slugga and choppa with one of the following:".
The reason I am certain this is true is because Mega Armor is also listed and on every other HQ entry it is listed under "Replace slugga and choppa with...". The second reason is because if you look at the format of every other unit listed with 3 "replace" options. It's always choppa, then slugga, then both. Hopefully this will be addressed in a new Ork Errata sometime soon!
I would consider adding a 5th Deffkopta. With 4 it will only take a single kill before they'll be forced to test for morale and flee with a 42% chance. I wouldn't risk those odds! Also, I'm not sure about how tricked out the trukks are, but at the moment I can't see a better way to spend the points that could be saved from removing armored plates and stikkbomb chukkas...
Acutally, I'm not sure about how the lobas and lootas fit your theme. What you could do is find the points for another Battlewagon with deffrolla and put the lootas in that! Then you'd have a moving bunker of death and worry a little less about them being left vulnerable at the back of the board while the rest of the army rapidly moves forward.
Other than that, I like the list
Actually you can give an ork a KFF and a burna, I've double checked it. One replaces the slugga and the other replaces the choppa.
What I can do, to be reasonable, is except that because of the current wording that people will give a Big Mek a KFF and burna, but I really don't think it's suppose to be allowed. I just hold my breath unitl a new Errata or shot GW an email (not that thats very official).
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So I sent the question to GW out of curiosity. When I was typing the email I realized another thing that seems very strange about the Big Mek Options: They have the warbike upgrade listed under the "Replace slugga with..." heading instead of the "May take any of the following...". The wording is completely inconsistent with the warboss entry.
I suppose one could consider they'd put the warbike under the same options as the KFF, SAG, and Mega Armor to imply you can't have one of these and a warbike, but they handled that so gracefully in the Warboss entry already!
Anyways, I let you guys know what the response is. I suppose you should go ahead and enjoy the burna theonlyxaso, but roast as many guys as possible with it just in case!
Yes, you can have an SAG and a burna. You can also have both an SAG and a powerklaw. I'm not sure where your confusion is coming from, as the rules seem fairly clear to me. Some items you switch the slugga for and other items you switch the choppa for. The burna is actually considered a close combat weapon, rather than a gun, even though you can fire it in the shooting phase, so you switch the choppa for it.
The point is, why would you want to? There's just no point in having both an SAG and a burna, as you can only fire one each turn. I'll double check the codex when I get home, but I remember specificially looking this issue up, and I had no confusion with it.
Grax, the reason we are stating this is because in the Mek entry it states a) replace slugga with... b) replace choppa with... c) replace slugga with... Both a and c are for swapping the slugga, why would list it twice? It is a safe assumption that c should say repalce slugga and choppa with...
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I'll refrain from extending the conversation as it's not in my nature to sit around and endless argue about something! I'm more curious to see what GW says.Monkey, I'd rep you for agreeing with me but that would be a blatant abuse of the system! So instead, I'll cheers you and raise a beer.I've been saying this since the new Ork Codex has come out Russ, yet everyone still insists on giving their Meks KFFs and Burnas. I don't just because I don't want to have to edit all my lists when its finally corrected (if ever).
I don't see a problem here. Replace choppa with a burna, replace slugga with a KFF, that's what the Codex says.
As for the list itself, looks good. I'd probably swap out the Lobbas for more Lootas and try to get 2 units of 8.
Deff Koptas could also get the axe in favor of 4 rokkit buggies (2x2) and more Lootas.
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i like my deffkoptas though, and i havent played a single game where my lobbas didnt make up there points
It's not a speed freaks list with these in it