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Here is the list I've used in the last couple of games against Deamons and SM. I've taken both off the table to the man. I'm not convinced that this army is that strong and would like some C&C. Thanks in advance...
2x Warboss, PK, Cyborg, BP, combi skorcha - 210
7 nobs, painboy, 2xPK, cyborg, BP, WB in a Battlewagon w/ BS, AP, DR - 425
2x 20 Slugga boyz w/ nob w/PK, BP - 308
2x 11 Slugga boyz w/ nob w/ PK, BP in trukk w/ BS. RR - 304
14 grots w/ herder - 52
2x warbuggies (x3) w/ rokkits 210
Battlewagon w/ BS, AP, DR - 125
Battlewagon w/ BS, AP, RR - 110
Total - 1744
The warboss' ride in the trukks with the boyz to buzz off for krumping and objective claiming. The grots are there strickly for holding my objective. The three battlewagons gang up on whatever looks to be the biggest threat. The two groups of warbuggies go tank or dread hunting.
Looking at this, I know I can drop the BP on the warboss' and use the points to add 5 more grots to the mob. I'm even thinking of spliting the 6 warbuggies into three groups of two rather than two groups of three to enable me to shoot at more targets. Trouble with that is it is amazing how many times three shots of twin linked is not enough to get a single hit with a BS of 5! But what else needs to be done to the army?
1. 20 Slugga boyz w/ nob w/PK, BP = 160 x2 gives you 320 not 308
2. 11 Slugga boyz w/ nob w/ PK, BP in trukk w/ BS. RR = 146 x 2 gives you 292 not 304
3. if you are putting the Warboss in with the trukk boyz, their nobz already have bp so you are doubling up
(were are my Super-Runts)
You are absolutely correct on this. What I did was originally wrote the list to have the warboss in the battlewagon and then later changed it to have him in the trukk mob. So the boyz cost was off by one in all four units. So, take one boy from each trukk and add him to the battlewagon mob and the cost is correct.
I've already dropped the BP from the warboss.
What do you think of a warboss in the trukk mob versus in the battlewagon? I find it a catch-22. If I put him in the trukk, typically my opponent goes after the battlewagons and ignores the trukks. However, that trukk is paper thin and if it does get targeted, it is gone and my boss is slogging. But, if I put the warboss in the battlewagon, his effectiveness is watered down due to the overall effectiveness of the 20 choppa boyz and nob on their own.
Not a bad list at all. You've probably heard my feelings regarding Nob mobz, but if you're going to use them, then give them 1-2 combi-scorchas.
I'd definitely drop a warboss and replace him with a big mek w/Kustom force field. That will give all your vehicles within 6in of the vehicle carrying him (including the one he's in) a 4+ obscurement save against all attacks. If you don't have one, it's easy to convert one of parts. Just take a warboss or normal Ork and glue as many bits to his back as possible. ^_^
Warbosses work fine in trukks. Just keep the trukks behind the battlewagons, and again, keep them within 6in of the kustom force field.
"Any job worth doing, is worth doing with a powerklaw."
Thanks for the input, I'll try it in the next game.