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Ive already promised myself and the people that I play with that I wont field my Necrons until they are all put together and painted, a big deal down here since hardly none paints their models. I was wondering what, if any kind of fight I could put up with the models I already have painted and assembled. I plan on eventually using them in the tournaments and popping my Nids on the shelf, depending on how the Necrons do. I have a lord w/ a rez orb model, a monlith, a Nightbringer, 6 destroyers and 56 Warriors, mainly from the 2 battle boxes. If I need to get more models I will, but I dont wanna break the bank, any help will be appreciated.
Hola Hbomb1. do you need help making army lists? or choosing what to buy? If you need armylist help there's a subforum for that up top of the page.
Other than that a short list of what you're generally going to be facing would be fantastically helpful.
Most effective list i could think of off the top of my head with what you have for general games?
HQ:Lord w/ res orb
FA: 2x3 Destroyers
Totals to 1755, so I'm not exactly sure where to shave those extra 5 points.
I'm normally not big on using two HQ under 2k or so, but I feel that you're going to need the punch provided by the nightbringer AND monolith as you're only damage units are a handful of Destroyers. Work the Phalanx with this list and you should come out alright against most comers.
Warriors are easy to convert into Flayed Ones and Immortals, harder into Pariahs and Wraiths. That could save you some cash if you decide to buy more units. I'd go with something like what Alzer said, but to make it 1750 I'd play 1x5 Destroyers instead of 2x3, giving you points to buy either two more warriors or destroyer body plus warscythe for the lord, allowing him to dash to support any unit that needs help, and defend himself from fast assaults.
Necron Army Building Maxima: Beware of Phase Out
I don't know if I would take the NB for a game under 2k. The reason is because he eats up alot of points and you can easily toss in another Mono and add another Destroyer or two.
Easily requires having those models Vlorlich, which is the reason I'd suggested NB in the first place.
If we were ignoring the money had/models had factor, I'd say boost the HD squads to 4 each, get some tomb spyders in there and maybe some heavy destroyers.
First off, I've moved this to the army list forum.
Now then, I disagree that a C'tan is inappropriate in <2,000-point games. The codex was invented before Apocalypse came out. They were designed to go in standard games.
Granted, in any game under 1,000 points it's a bit of overkill, and you run the risk of not having enough warriors. Heck, even in my 1,850-point list I agree that using the Deceiver hurts my phase out, but it just means I have to be careful how I use him. I think with practice it will be easy for the OP to figure out how to make the Nightbringer earn its points back.
Basically, if you look at it as a strict tough vs. volume argument, you're basically replacing sheer volume of grunts ("You can't kill ALL of them!") with something specifically designed to support and protect what you have instead. As long as you remember that the C'tan are there to SUPPORT your army, not to go off on some character-hunting, indirect ordinance hunting lone-wolf mission or any other nonsense, you'll do fine with them, especially in >1,500 points.
In other words, we're not nids, orks or IG. While a mob of warriors might be the "safer" thing to do, a C'tan will ultimately make you a much better player. Sure, you'll lose with him a few times, maybe more than a few, but if you learn from the losses, you'll become a force to be reckoned with, much more than you will by "playing it safe."
I also disagree that multiple monoliths are a good idea. I only have one, and that's been more than enough to scare my opponent and offer the slow-motion death the rest of my army needs. If you're going to sink 200+ points into any one Necron model, the list is bigger than 1,000/1,500 points, and you already have one monolith, get a C'tan.
I did miss the part where it was stated that he only had said models, for that I am sorry. I was reading while at work and I tend to read quickly and post quickly depending on my status.
I found that he makes his points back when people spend turn after turn trying to kill him instead of focusing on pushing your phase out. My wife ignores my Ctan/Monoliths when I play them and she puts every effort into forcing my phase out. Most players though, do not do that or don't understand how to take advantage of that. Its some sort of weird OMG its that crazy Necron MC, must kill! Play on it. Use it to your advantage.
To the OP.
In the end though, play what you got. Don't be afraid to put units in danger, I think one of the problems I see with Necron players is they try to play them like Marines. I suggest you try the Phalanx out for a bit as well. Took me a long time to get into a good groove with the Necrons and it was the Phalanx that helped me get that. Also, don't be afraid to stick them out there to be shot.
Necrons are fun! Course not everyone sees it that way... especially those you play against.
Thanks for the information, I think I might just try my hand at converting a Warrior into an Immortal, and money isnt a factor, I just like to hoild on to it lol. Thanks again.
Hey i'll add my two cents and maybe a you guys can help me, apparently if it happens still i will have to run a 1750 point list with my brothers necrons, seeing that my blood angels or my IG are hardly finished for the job.
Apparently i'll be running the NB in my 1750 list, and right now i think he's not going to do so bad. With all Mechanized lists out there since 5th edition revolves around objective taking, necrons have it bad since we are not essentially mobile ourselves. Our scoring units are only necron warriors, and the best two ways of getting to an objective, especially if its deep within the enemy's line will be
2) Deep Strike (via Monolith or VOD Lord)
With the idea that everyone is mechanized chances are most lists will be tooled with destroying alot of vehicles so expect alot of Lascannons and S9 weapons to take down the NB, are most likely its going to be a fire magnet.
But think of it like this, heck a monolith is 14 armor all around, but a NB is only T6, it can still be hurt from alot of weapons. It might be a big point sink, but heck if there are more weapons such as HBs and Lascannons shooting at my NB and not my warriors, i'm one set ahead of them, especially for Seize Ground or Objectives. If he doesn't harm my troops I'm still scoring.
Be in mind i'm fielding mostly a speed bump army, where if its objective based, i have 10 scarab swarms which will tie up units, I have 3 Wraiths to tie up units, I also have Heavy Destroyers too knock out tanks and contest objectives at the end, i have the NB as the biggest fire magnet and tank hunter, and i have a VOD lord to snatch objectives at the end.
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