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hey guys, i am thought getting back into warhammer was a great idea. i missed the old days playin fantasy on friday nights with all my mates, and goin into GW.
The last army i collected was a 1000 point necron army but i never got to use that in battle so i plan to get to know the rules of 40k with them and then start collecting my tyranids but i have no clue on what is good and what is not..
Here is what i have put together for my necron army list.. i want about 1000 points
biomorphs: winged, Toxin sacks, Enhanced senses
weapons: Twinlinked Devourers, Rending claws,
HM Power: Warp feild
biomorphs: Enhanced senses, Extended caprice.
Weapons: Venom Cannon, Barbed Strangler.
biomorphs: Adrenal glands WS, reinforced chitin, implant attack, Tail mace.
Weapons: x2 Sything talons.
x3 Units of x10 Spinegaunts
biomorphs: extended caprice, feeding tendrils, toxin sacks, scuttlers.
weapons: sything talons.
i dont know what biomorphs are good, but i think i have it fairly close. and also i dont know if ive made my stealers to expensive and if i could fit somthing else in there... and what to use extra points on...
also i dont know much about nid stratergy.. for the army type ive chosen.
thanks if anyone can help.
To run that many gaunts you need atleast 2-3 synapse creatures, so far you have 1 and the tyrant has wings so he'll be pushing forward pretty hard. For this list i'd drop TS and ST from the stealers, drop the gaunt all togather and take a cheaper stealer squad also with scuttlers so you won't need any synapse creatures, OR, drop a carnifex and make the stealers cheaper to fit in a zoanthrope and a squad of warriors.
That's just my 2cents.
thanks.. i think the stealers would be a good idea instead of the 30 gaunts...alot cheaper money wise to but the main idea for the gaunts was a screen? will i survive ranged fire without them?
If my Fex's or tyrant get into combat will they be alright? considering having no combat weapons?
A dakka-tyrant still has 3 CC attacks, 4 on the charge so he can still hold hisown, the fexes i'm sceptical to, i don't think you really need more than 1 in a 1k match anyways. It's alot of points for not that much of a result, depending on the changes in januari with the new dex comming out. Fexes right now aren't worth investing in heavily in my opinion unless you're doing a nidzilla list and that's just for lame people.
Here's what i gun for in a 1k list:
With 4 synapse creatures, 2 of wich walk with the gaunts, you have a better chance of keeping them in check and scoring objectives, giving cover to the 'thrope and warriors as they go.
230p - Broodlord, F.Hooks, +S, Feeder Tendrils, +6xGens. F.Hooks, +S, +Sv
200p - Flying-dakka-tyrant, +S, F.Hooks, 2xTL-Devs, Warp Field, Wings
129p - 4x Warrior Brood, +S, 4xTalons, 3xDeathspitter, 1xB.Strangler
100p - 16x Spinegaunt, Spinefist
120p - 20x Fleshgaunt, Fleshborer
65p - Zoanthrope, SC, WB
155p - Shootie-fex, F.Hooks, +i, +BS, B.Strangler, V.Cannon
Last edited by Gatstein; October 13th, 2009 at 09:43.
that seems like a pretty stable army. with some or the origanal additions i liked.
there is a new codex coming out? is it just updated or is it changing dramatically? will there be new models again?!
1 question. how would i play this army, the broodlord needs a retinue of stealers doesnt he?
oh i see the genstealers listed in there now. sorry >.<
You put the broodlord in reserves and use 'outflank' to bring him onto the board close to the enemy and start slashing.
The flyrant you just jump around cutting off skimmers and such, taking them down as you go along, trying to get coversaves from snipers. It is also a great vehicle killer with 4x(2D6+6) attacks against rear armor.
The gaunts, warriors and 'thrope you can split up into two teams if terrain allows it to go for objectives or to get the warriors in possition to take out infantry.
And the fex just focuses on transports and tanks to stun/shake/immobalize them to hell.
Hopefully this works but no plan is perfect
And yes, there is a completly new dex comming out in januari. It will feature some new beasties, 3 new plastic kits and 3 new metal kits, one of wich will be a plastic hive tyrant.
Sure there will be drastic changes, but for the better. This list will work even better then.
wow, thanks... i might wait for the janurary models/dex to come out considering ive never played 40k.. only a shit load of fantasy xD when i was younger.. also that plastic tyrant will give me a better options for converting him to winged... and i have alot of cool ideas in mind for his pose / extras maybe even convert a carnifex to a tyrant. make it stand upright more.
i have a 1000 point fully painted necron army never been used. i shal learn the 40k rules and practise with them up until janruary. anyway thanks for the help it means alot.
(btw one last question what is the special rule that you said to use the stealers and broodlord?? how does it work. is it like deepstrike?)
if your interested idc but heres my necron list
Necron Lord: Warsythe, ressurection orb, phylactery, phase shifter, gaze of flame
x6 scarabs: disruption feilds
Outflank is detailed on page 94 of the rulebook and the broodlord+retinue gets it because of the 'Infiltrate' special rule. You put a unit in reserves at the start of the game and declare that they're going to use 'outflank'.
You then proceed to roll for them as reserves to enter the game starting on turn 2:
Turn 2 = 4+, Turn 3 = 3+, Turn 4 = 2+, Turn 5 = automatically gets in.
You then roll a dice desciding wich short table-edge they'll enter from, 1-2 to your left, 3-4 to your right and 5-6 you get to descide, you can place them anywhere you like along that side.
You get to move 6" in, and assault in the same turn.
You can get some safe units, such as the carnifex, genestealers, the gaunts. They won't change in januari model-weise.
Regarding the necrons
My friend plays a very similar list on 750p and frequently get creamed, so don't be surprised if you struggle abit with it, what i would do for a 1k necron list:
You just put the lord with the wraiths and you'll have a serious killer squad, and kite around everything that's advancing with the destroyers.
180p - Necron Destroyer-Lord, Ress Orb, Destroyer body, Warscythe
198p - 11x Necron Warriors
198p - 11x Necron Warriors
123p - 3x Necron Wraiths
150p - 3x Necron Destroyers
150p - 3x Necron Destroyers
There's also talk of a new necron codex next year, althogh late in the year most likely.
Last edited by Gatstein; October 13th, 2009 at 10:30.
that necron list is nice.. i might consider upgrading my necrons also now xD hehe. and im nowhere near up to date with GW haha thanks for the info in new necrons.
out of interest what armies do you play? and what shops. SA?
Oh i'm sitting in the freezing wastelands of sweden.
I play chaos marines and I'm currently painting up a Hive Fleet.
But since I'm unemployed at the moment I have alot of time on my hands, wich I spend makeing army-lists and watching battlereports on youtube, wich is a great source of play-test information.
So I have a pretty good feel about most armies.