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    Tyranid Apocalypse List help needed.

    Alright so i'm considering joining a halloween apocalypse game at my local GW store with my Nids but i've got 0 experience at playing apocalypse games so I dunno what works best for tyranids.

    Can anyone give me the breakdown of which formations I should bring, what to use and all that.

    I'm able to field just about every formation so if someone can break down the pros and cons of them i'd appreciate that as well.

    I also have a question bout the Genestealer Infestation formation, it seems that the whole formation gains the Secret Deployment special rule that the Lictor has.

    So does this mean the whole formation may also assault on the turn it arrives? Or is the Lictor the only one allowed to assault?

    I ask because the lictor is given the ability to assault after deep striking within the secret deployment rule. However it specifically says the Lictor (but this is because Lictors are the ONLY units with this special rule in the codex) so is the ability to assault after deep striking something given by having secret deployment itself ? Or is this a lictor only rule?

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    Well i sat down with army builder to make a couple builds of everything I could squeeze in with what I own and this is what i came up with:

    Unlimited Pts - Tyranids Roster - Apocalypse [NOTE: There are no individual point costs noted]

    Formation: Endless Swarm (195#, 2904 Pts)
    1 Endless Swarm @ 2904 Pts
    Gaunt Brood; Gaunt Brood
    25 Hormagaunts @ [400] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons
    25 Hormagaunts @ [400] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons
    25 Hormagaunts @ [400] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons
    22 Gaunt Brood @ [264] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Spinefists
    22 Gaunt Brood @ [264] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Spinefists
    22 Gaunt Brood @ [264] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Spinefists
    22 Gaunt Brood @ [264] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Spinefists
    32 Gaunt Brood @ [448] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Devourer

    Formation: Subterranean Swarm (7#, 640 Pts)
    1 Subterranean Swarm @ 640 Pts
    1 Trygon (IA AP) @ [300] Pts
    2 x Scything Talons; Bio-eletric Field
    3 Ravener @ [120] Pts
    Rending Claws; Scything Talons (x1)
    3 Ravener @ [120] Pts
    Rending Claws; Scything Talons (x1)

    Formation: Mycetic Assault Storm (6#, 1785 Pts)
    1 Mycetic Assault Storm @ 1785 Pts
    Barbed Hierodule
    1 Carnifex @ [173] Pts
    Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Twin-linked Devourer (x2)
    1 Carnifex @ [173] Pts
    Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Twin-linked Devourer (x2)
    1 Carnifex @ [173] Pts
    Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Twin-linked Devourer (x2)
    1 Carnifex @ [208] Pts
    Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Barbed Strangler; Venom Cannon
    1 Carnifex @ [208] Pts
    Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Barbed Strangler; Venom Cannon
    1 Barbed Hierodule @ [700] Pts
    Hierodule Bio-cannon (x2); Scything Talons (x2)

    Formation: Mycetic Assault Storm (5#, 1290 Pts)
    1 Mycetic Assault Storm @ 1290 Pts
    1 Carnifex @ [230] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Scythe; Toxic Miasma; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Crushing Claws; Scything Talons (x1)
    1 Carnifex @ [230] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Scythe; Toxic Miasma; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Crushing Claws; Scything Talons (x1)
    1 Carnifex @ [200] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Mace; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Scything Talons (x2)
    1 Carnifex @ [240] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Scythe; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon
    1 Carnifex @ [240] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Scythe; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon

    Formation: Kraken Tendril Swarm (132#, 1570 Pts)
    1 Kraken Tendril Swarm @ 1570 Pts
    Gargoyles; Gaunt Brood; Gaunt Brood; Warriors; Strategic Redeployment
    10 Gargoyles @ [120] Pts
    Bio-plasma; Fleshborer
    20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts
    Fleshborer
    20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts
    Fleshborer
    20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts
    Fleshborer
    5 Warriors @ [315] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Twin-linked Devourer; Synapse Creature
    1 Warriors @ [55] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Barbed Strangler; Synapse Creature
    10 Gargoyles @ [120] Pts
    Bio-plasma; Fleshborer
    20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts
    Fleshborer
    20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts
    Fleshborer
    5 Warriors @ [315] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Twin-linked Devourer; Synapse Creature
    1 Warriors @ [55] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Barbed Strangler; Synapse Creature

    Formation: Eye of the Hive (21#, 1314 Pts)
    1 Eye of the Hive @ 1314 Pts
    6 Warriors @ [388] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Deathspitter; Synapse Creature
    1 Warriors @ [64] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon; Synapse Creature
    6 Warriors @ [388] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Deathspitter; Synapse Creature
    1 Warriors @ [64] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon; Synapse Creature
    6 Warriors @ [388] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Deathspitter; Synapse Creature
    1 Warriors @ [64] Pts
    Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon; Synapse Creature

    Formation: Hive Mind Brood (10#, 725 Pts)
    1 Hive Mind Brood @ 725 Pts
    Tyrant Guard; Zoanthrope; Zoanthrope
    1 Hive Tyrant @ [170] Pts
    Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon; Synapse Creature; The Horror; The Shadow in the Warp
    1 Tyrant Guard @ [45] Pts
    Rending Claws; Scything Talons
    1 Tyrant Guard @ [45] Pts
    Rending Claws; Scything Talons
    1 Tyrant Guard @ [45] Pts
    Rending Claws; Scything Talons
    1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts
    Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field
    1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts
    Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field
    1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts
    Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field
    1 Tyrant Guard @ [45] Pts
    Lash Whips; Rending Claws
    1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts
    Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field
    1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts
    Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field

    Formation: Genestealer Infestation (48#, 1695 Pts)
    1 Genestealer Infestation @ 1695 Pts
    1 Broodlord @ [341] Pts
    Extended Carapace +1 Save; Feeder Tendrils; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws; Scything Talons; Synapse Creature
    8 Genestealers @ [248] Pts
    Acid Maw; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws; Scything Talons
    12 Genestealers @ [288] Pts
    Extended Carapace +1 Save; Feeder Tendrils; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws
    12 Genestealers @ [288] Pts
    Extended Carapace +1 Save; Feeder Tendrils; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws
    12 Genestealers @ [288] Pts
    Extended Carapace +1 Save; Feeder Tendrils; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws
    1 Lictor @ [80] Pts
    Feeder Tendrils; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons
    1 Lictor @ [80] Pts
    Feeder Tendrils; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons
    1 Lictor @ [80] Pts
    Feeder Tendrils; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons

    Total Roster Cost: 11923

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    DUDE, ive just got one thing for you...
    SPAM those genestealers!!!
    genestealer infestation is possible too good for anything under 20,000 points.
    i mean like...too good.
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    I've personally always been a fan of mycetic assault storm. DSing 'fexes? Sweet. Kraken Tendril Swarm can also be really brutal. Any option that can allow you to simply move part of your army somewhere behind your opponent is stupid good in Apoc games. Finally I like one you don't have up there : shieldwall. Give a group of HT, and TG 2+/FNP, is pretty decent for the points that go into it.

    Far as I know RAW you cannot assault with those units the turn they arrive, but honestly this is Apoc. Talk it over with your group, you can always make a case for it from a RAI perspective, and ridiculous crap lake that is the bread and butter of apocalypse so I say go for it.
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    Sorry, semi-new here.

    Where can I find the rules for the following apoc. formations?

    Kraken Tendril Swarm

    Eye of the Hive

    Genestealer Infestation

    shieldwall

    Any help would be appreciated (repped)

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    Those are all found in the semi-new book "Apocalypse: Reload" that came out around a year ago I believe. Also included the only CD formations, as well as a number of special options that depended on your army.
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    Thanks a lot for replying guys, any tips on what upgrades work best in the formations?
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