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    Just over 1500pts New player SO HELP!

    Hey guys, I just started playing war hammer 40k and I decided that tyrnaids best suit my style, so I sat done went to some different sites, and decided to make my own list.

    This is what I got! (PS: I'm not to sure if I set it out right but I gave it my best shot)

    HQ:

    Hive Tyrant + 2 x Scything Talons + Adrenal Glands (WS) + Adrenal Glands (I) + Toxin Sacs + Flesh Hooks + Wings = 166
    8x Genestealers- Toxin Sacs, Broodlord w/ Talons- 184
    3x Warriors- Toxin Sacs, Deathspitters, Barbed Strangler- 122

    Troops:

    20x Termagants- 100
    20x Hormagaunts- TS- 192
    2x 8 Genestealers + Flesh Hooks = 272

    Elites:

    Carnifex + 2 Twin-Linked Devourers + Enhanced Senses + Flesh Hooks = 114

    Heavy Support:

    3 x Zoanthropes + Warp Blast each + 2 x Synapse Creature = 185
    Trygon Prime- AG- 250


    Ok so that comes to a total of! 1553 points!

    I haven't played a single game so I need some serious help, im willing to change anything but I would like to keep the list close to 1500 points. So Shoot away, and thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by New_Nid_Player View Post
    Hey guys, I just started playing war hammer 40k and I decided that tyrnaids best suit my style, so I sat done went to some different sites, got the codex for the 5th edition and I decided to make my own army.

    This is what I got! (PS: I'm not to sure if I set it out right but I gave it my best shot)

    HQ:

    Hive Tyrant + 2 x Scything Talons + Adrenal Glands (WS) + Adrenal Glands (I) + Toxin Sacs + Flesh Hooks + Wings = 166
    8x Genestealers- Toxin Sacs, Broodlord w/ Talons- 184
    3x Warriors- Toxin Sacs, Deathspitters, Barbed Strangler- 122

    Troops:

    20x Termagants- 100
    20x Hormagaunts- TS- 192
    2x 8 Genestealers + Flesh Hooks = 272

    Elites:

    Carnifex + 2 Twin-Linked Devourers + Enhanced Senses + Flesh Hooks = 114

    Heavy Support:

    3 x Zoanthropes + Warp Blast each + 2 x Synapse Creature = 185
    Trygon Prime- AG- 250


    Ok so that comes to a total of! 1553 points!

    I haven't played a single game so I need some serious help, im willing to change anything but I would like to keep the list close to 1500 points. So Shoot away, and thanks in advance
    Your list is a strange combination of V4 and V5 codex rules. I think you should check the V5 codex and hash things out.
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    I dont understand? So there was a new codex released without me knowing?

    How embarrassing
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    your army list has upgrades from the previous codex edition. We have just changed to a new edition, so a lot of the information concerning tactica and army lists are now out-of-date.

    Adrenal glands (WS) and (I) for instance do not exist in the new codex, nor does Flesh Hooks for Hive Tyrants, Carnifexes or Genestealers. No such thing as Enhanced senses now. Zoanthropes can not have any upgrades now. I can carry on, but I think I've made my point.

    I belive your list is completely made from the previous edition apart from the Trygon. You can only create lists from the new codex now. A simple way of putting it, the old codexes now do not exist (they can not be used). Make sure that everything in the list follows the new codex. Now I'll try to be nice and show what you have legally with the new codex -

    HQ:

    Hive Tyrant + 2 x Scything Talons + Toxin Sacs + Wings = 240

    Elites:

    3 x Zoanthropes =180

    Troops:

    3x Warriors- Toxin Sacs, Deathspitters, Barbed Strangler = 125
    8x Genestealers- Toxin Sacs, Broodlord w/ Talons = 184
    20x Termagants = 100
    20x Hormagaunts- TS = 160
    8x Genestealers = 112
    8x Genestealers = 112

    Elites:

    Carnifex + 2 Twin-Linked Devourers + Enhanced Senses + Flesh Hooks = 114

    This is completely illigal in the new Codex. You can not have 2 x twin linked devourers.

    Heavy Support:

    Trygon Prime- AG- 250

    Total points - 1463 - excluding Carnifex

    What I had done was remove all the illigal bio-morphs and counted up the points with the new codex. But it is most likely completely differant to what you intended sadly. So just grab the new codex and make it with from scratch with that.

    But I see that you have done your research. In the old edition a Carnifex with 2 Twin-linked devourers and Enhanced Senses was the king.

    Good luck! Remember, creating the list is really hard when just starting out. All you need to do is give it time, play a few games and gain experiance
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    Hive Fleet Ruina said it very well. It appeared you were using mostly the V4 codex.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hive Fleet Ruina View Post
    Carnifex + 2 Twin-Linked Devourers + Enhanced Senses + Flesh Hooks = 114

    This is completely illigal in the new Codex. You can not have 2 x twin linked devourers.
    Looking at the codex, it appears that a carnifex with 2 sets of twin-linked devourers is possible. It does say "any" set of scything talons may be replaced, unlike the entry for the stranglethorn cannon, which says "one."
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    Woah, so Dakka fexes still exist?

    Rep for the catch.

    PS: That means that the Carnifex costs 190 points. That brings your army list points cost to 1653 points
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    Awesome! thanks a ton, this saves me the embarrassment rocking up to a match with a completely wrong army list , ill do some more research and put up a new army list, but is the basic idea around that army good? and what should I run my fex as?

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    HQ:

    Hive Tyrant + 2 x Scything Talons + Toxin Sacs + adrenal glands + Wings = 250


    Troops:

    3x Warriors- Toxin Sacs, Deathspitters, Barbed Strangler = 125

    8x Genestealers- Toxin Sacs, Broodlord w/ Talons = 184

    20x Termagants = 100

    20x Hormagaunts- TS = 160

    8x Genestealers + adrenal glands= 144

    8x Genestealers + adrenal glands= 144


    Elites:

    3 x Zoanthropes =180


    Heavy Support:

    Carnifex (NO idea what to run this big guy as? I dont know what to put on him, so many choices)

    Trygon Prime- Adrenal glands (Maybe, I would like to run this but not to sure ) - 250

    Total of = 1537 points (Excluding the fex)

    So the main issues I need addressed are:
    Have I sorted out the issue with the new codex?
    What on earth to run my fex as?
    And finally, will this army work?

    Thanks for all the help you have given me, so thanks in advance

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    Your list looks to be V5 now. Much better.

    For the carnifex, with the new codex they are usually better fire support. My favorite is a carnifex with a barbed strangler and twin-linked brainleech devourers - it comes in just under 200 points. You can also do the carnifex with 2 sets of twin-linked brainleech devourers. Either of them is pretty evil against light armor and any infantry. You can put the carnifex in a mycetic spore if you want, which is something I would do if he has all devourers.

    Your zoanthropes you will want to put in a spore. Otherwise they are going to try to hoof it, and will probably have a hard time catching their intended targets if the other player is smart.

    Adrenals on the genestealers is a choice I'd think about. They already have a high initiative, and their rending is their best aspect. I usually run them vanilla and they still do great.

    You might find your synapse web is a little thin. That will depend on how you employ your units. Play a few games and if you find it to be an issue then make a change.
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    Ok, thanks for all your help. I may play a few games then post a new comment on how it works, wish me luck.

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