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So this is a list my friend is running, he's struggling and is wanting advices, not entirely clear on every little upgrade but this is pretty much what it amounts to afaik:
Hq: 2 x Big meks with KFF
Troops: 6 x 30 grots+3runtherds
Fast: 2 x 5 deffkoptas with tl rokkits
Heavy: 3 Killakans.
this is in 1500 points. the sheer numbers of the force is a huge pain in the ass, but the bulk of the force is severly unmobile, and once the koptas are gone has very little firepower. everything else is only really deadly from 12" which is easily countered. Is there any hope for his (ludicrously cheap of ebay) army? is it competitive at all?
To be honest even with the 2 kff and the kans im not to sure how well this list will do in a competative game. Grots are not that great and will die fairly easy specially if a squad charges them. The kans and koptas will do ok but they wont be able to carry your army. If you come across any type of assault army its not going to be pretty. I could be way off but im thinking about all armies. Maybe with all the grots on the board they could outlast the other army till game over, but thats a big gamble. Pie plates and ordanance are going to be bad even with the KFF's. Again I stress I could be way wrong I usually just use grots as a meatshield for a cover for my boyz. Also consider almost every weapon in the game is going to wound on 2+. I know my nob bikers would have a slaughter fest with this list.
Ultramarines 12W/7L/2D 4000points Waaagh! Whut 9W/5L/1D 18000points
Blood Angels Razorspam 2W/1L 2500points Vampire Counts Never played No idea lol!
Honestly I don't think this list could ever work that well. Grotz are good for one thing, sitting on objectives in your deployment zone. If you are playing kill points then stick them in the corner and forget about them. Grotz have poor stats in all categories, only one unit is necessary around 15-19 models. The only time you have them in a shooting role is when they are crewing a big gun. yeah you have 6 units of 30. But in 1500pts you could run 6 units of 30 Ork boys, which are leagues better.
Also the list has little to no shooting. 2 KFF can easily be worked around with CC, massed shooting, or stuff that ignores cover. the only "good" CC unit is the 3 kans, but they still only have WS2.
Honestly this list will have a very hard time wining, even in friendly games. Your friend may want to get some Orks in his Ork army. After all the codex is called Orks, not Orks and Grotz.
Repainting Orks not sure how many points yet
Warriors of Chaos shelved until further notice
After getting a serious slap in the face very quickly after refusing to lay down arms and join the greater good he has decided that grots are not the way foward, strangely tho he still has not seen light and will not be joining the greater good anytime soon.