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my girlfriend has made the leap from WHFB to 40k and has started to paint up some tyranids.
Only problem is i have no clue on 'nids and she has no clue on 40k. so making a list is a bit of a challenge.
what we have so far is a list that is just the models she has/will be getting soon un-upgraded unless the upgrade is on the model. here it is:
3 warriors 2x deathspitter 1x venom cannon
10 genestealers with scything talons and broodlord
10 genestealers and broodlord
3 ripper swarms
what should we/she do wth the spare 117 points? she just wants a 1k list to start then as she gets more into she will look into making a 1.5k list with some big buggers.
any help would be great
Just to start, this should be in the army list section.
Shes got an okay core (dont buy any more genestealers BTW, youve already got too many) but is going to need a few adjustments. If your willing, you really need to lose the stealers with tallons and the rippers. 20 stealers is way too many, and rippers just plain suck. Grab toxin sacs for your hormaguants, and rending on the warriors.
The tyrant will want either 2 TL devourers and old adversary, or 2 sets of tallons and wings. With the points you save from losing the stealer brood, plus the ones you had left over, you can probably affaord a trygon, or if cost is going to be an issue, a carnifex.
EDIT: If your willing, loseing the termaguants and adding 2 hive guard would be a MUCH better build
Last edited by Heirodule; March 5th, 2011 at 16:44.
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I have sixteen genestealers and I find that it is perfect with a Broodlord. They rip up anything in close combat. Why not the ST on the Genestealers? Re-rolls of one means that basically only on twos do they fail to hit. Then on a 6 to wound it is rending. They destroy the opponent! But if you were to have 2 Broodlord + Genestealer units you only need a maximum of eight.
Definitely ditch Rippers. I've tried having normal, Sky-slasher, and Tunnel, and even with the Parasite, they fail. All the opponent needs is a round of shooting and suddenly one of your units is dead.
The Bonesword and Lashwhip are a waste as the HT has higher initiative than most and ignores armour anyway, but if you wanted to face characters it is a lethal combination (with instant death, stiking first, etc.). If not, a good pair of scything talons and some wings always goes well for me.
I don't think a Trygon would be suitable for 1000 points. Carnifex is perfect, however.
And also definitely needs the anti-tank Heirodule mentioned.
ST on the stealers is a big no no in my view. They die to easily and they sink up further points. A brood of about 10 can shred anything in CC, no need for scything talons. And I would go for a trygon with that list.
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The army needs a shooting phase. I almost never make any list -- even a small one like 1000 pts -- without at least one source of S10. It's of vital importance for puncturing armour quickly and reliably and for threatening instant death even on nasties like Thunderwolf Cavalry. Usually I opt for the shooting form of it with either a unit of zoanthropes or a Tyrannofex with a rupture cannon. Second best would be carnifexes with adrenal glands.
In any case, you DEFINITELY need to get a shooting phase into the army. Hive Guard are wonderful, but you can definitely go without them if you're willing to take zoeys or a Tfex AND a reasonable number of heavy venom cannons. (E.g., on hive tyrants, carnifexes, or harpies.)
You're also going to require at least some of your shooting to be long-range. Again, heavy venom cannons fit the bill, as do Tyrannofexes. Hive Guard are short-ranged only, as are zoeys, so taking only those units and no others means your opponent can stay away from you for a few turns too long and kill you dead before your weapons can come to bear. Always take a mix of heavy weaponry and heavy weaponry ranges. It's important to be capable of putting the hurt on your opponent right away. That can only be done with big guns.
One final note on the choice of bonesword/lash whip on a hive tyrant. You don't take it for the bonesword, you take it for the lash whip. It can be useful for assaulting into cover so you can at least fight simultaneously with your enemy ... and for annoying anybody that wishes to consider assaulting your tyrant. So not a bad choice ... but your list lacks all shooting, so I'd be more inclined to go with brainleech devourers and a heavy venom cannon.
ninjabackhand: point and click, again, really? even after i give you an military term "shock tactic" you still call it point and click.
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