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I have this idea for a deepstrike/outflank list and was wondering what your opinions are! I play tournaments and like to make a shot at winning We usually play 1750 points, so that's what i'm thinking about.
This is the list:
Hive Tyrant, wings, hive commander, twin-linked devourers, bonesword, lashwhip, adrenal glands, regeneration - 300
2 Zoanthropes, mycetic spore - 160
28 hormagaunts (outflank because of Hive Commander) - 168
10 genestealers - 140
10 genestealers - 140
6 shrikes, pair of boneswords, scything talons, adrenal glands - 300
10 gargoyles - 60
Trygon Prime, regeneration - 265
Carnifex, mycetic spore, adrenal glands, frag spines, 2x scything talons - 215
I can build this army for €40 at the moment, which is quite appealing, but am open to suggestions for other units, like perhaps a deathleaper?
The idea is, to put everything in reserves. In turn 2, start with the flyrant for the +1 on reserve roll from the Hive Commander rule. I'm playing with this idea because of the disaster of my footslogging army at the moment, and being shot before I reach my opponent...
Eurh.... hate to say it but thats a pretty poor list. Seems to suffer from the usual problems, overloading on upgrades and no anti tank. Ill start from the top.
Tyrant - way way way too heavily upgraded! 300 points! Ahhh!!! Dont mix and match range and shooting, either take one of the other. Id recogmend 2 sets of tallons. Lose adrenal glands and regen.
Hormaguants - not bad, needs toxin sacs. Cut down to 20ish
Genestealers - lose a brood, get a broodlord in the other one.
Shrikes - Too expensive, too fragile. Drop these to about 3-4.
Gargoyles - just drop
Trygon - lose regen
Carnifex - needs to go really. You need those points.
With the points you saved anti tank MUST be a prioritory. How you get it is really up to you, but a tyrannofex could be very nice, as could harpies. At a pinch, consider hive guard or another brood of zoans, but its not a nessecity. If you go with a t-fex, grab some warriors to babysit him and hold your objective. Also some more troops couldnt hurt, warriors or guants in a pod perhaps?
Also rather than design a new list, why not post your current failing list up and we'll see if we can sort that?
Your friendly neighbourhood gargantuan creature
Problem with the options you provide, is they will be shot in round 1 because they'll be the only target... I agree with the amount of upgrades and to big a unit of shrikes, but that was because I have those already...
In my experience, a carnifex is much more efficient in anti tank than a trygon or anything else really, except maybe hive guard. Problem with hive guard, they can't go in a spore So perhaps a zoanthrope more in the spore, or another brood could add a lot. The spores are easy kill points though. Could you explain why a broodlord is worth over 4 genestealers?
I like the toxin sac idea on the hormagaunts, makes them ten times better against space marines and other t4 armies, and they could even take out wraithlords or trygons.
A harpy would fit very well in this list, nice idea!
Ok, my list of sunday:
Tyrant, old adversary, tl devs, armoured shell - 250
2 Tyrant guard - 120
Warrior prime, pair of boneswords - 90
5 warriors, adrenal glands, deathspitters - 200
20 termagants - 100
11 genestealers - 140
28 hormagaunts - 168
2 hive guard - 100
2 hive guard - 100
2 zoanthropes - 120
1 carnifex, crushing claws - 185
1 carnifex- 160
It's just too slow. Problem with this list is, it comes in waves, so my opponents have no problem with target priority.
Hmmm starting to like it! But by the looks of it, I'll be making quite a few changes and needing quite a few euros, so perhaps I should try your changes to my current list. What do you think of a t-fex instead of a trygon? Only upgrade a rupture canon?
Yep, it comes in at 265 points and is amazing. Offers great anti-vehicle capacity for your army.
And with 6 wounds on toughness 6 and a 2+ save my opponent will have quite some trouble taking him out
It really is epic. I run one in my 1000-2000 point games and 2 in my 2500 games. Although they can be a bit hard to convert if you really want to make him stand out :/